making inj. winny from powder

[juicevine9]

I have obtained pure stanozolol powder and am preparing to turn it into injectable form. I have a decent chemistry education but I am afraid the winstrol will seperate from the aqueous layer as i see in certain veterinary vials. I would like to form a completely soluble solution, which minimally separates. Can anyone give me advice from a chemical backround or from winstrol suspension conversion experience, on how to go about doing this?

I am planning on mixing .8ml benzyl alcohol with 1g stanozolol powder. Then adding 20cc of distilled H20. This would make a 20cc 50mg/ml solution. Any other suggestions (different solvents,etc). Thanks

 

[strider]

you can add PEG200 to your solvents since its already a solvent and will help maintain soluability. If you add an ester like BB then you may have seperation since the ester is not always compatible and may clump. most will tell you to heat the solution but if you have a chemistry background then you know this is a bad idea since when PEG is broken down by het it will form carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide when heated to decomposition.
PEG 200 also has less pain at inj site than with the 400. Its also by molecular weight and melting points.
Do a searchfor winny recipes there is a section on, but hope this helps.

 

[juicevine9]

thank u

how much peg200 do you suggest for this conversion

1g stanozol
.8ml benzyl alcohol
distilled water

to make 20cc 50mg/ml

 

[Jonny English]

hold your horses bro. Dont try the H2O conversion cause it whont work, go with an oil based conversion instead.

Heres a link with instruktions
http://www.basskilleronline.com/winny_oil.html

 

[strider]

yes do not use the peg and ba for a water based solution, follow the link JE provided and that will help ya, sorry i wasnt thinking when i posted it was 3am.

 

[juicevine9]

i understand the procedure for oil conversion.....but i still dont understand why a aq. conversion would not work, and i would prefer this type of conversion.

BA is soluble in water at ~4g/100ml
PEG200 is miscible with water.

Though i have little experience with PEG, i hear about its strong solvent properties, and would like to know if people had ever tried.

If people have and have been unsuccessful can someone please give me proper instrutions for stanozolol aq. conversion.

Thanks again

Im off to ask my chemistry professor about this right now.

 

[Jonny English]

i understand the procedure for oil conversion.....but i still dont understand why a aq. conversion would not work, and i would prefer this type of conversion.

BA is soluble in water at ~4g/100ml
PEG200 is miscible with water.

Though i have little experience with PEG, i hear about its strong solvent properties, and would like to know if people had ever tried.

If people have and have been unsuccessful can someone please give me proper instrutions for stanozolol aq. conversion.

Thanks again

Im off to ask my chemistry professor about this right now.

Heres the reason for why no one has yet been able to do a H2O conversion. winnie simply lumps up and also it damm near impossible to get stanozol powders micronised,.. i have a few guys trying to figure a H2o procedure out but IMO go with the oil is easier and less painless.

 

[strider]

JE is right oil is easier and less pain.
The aques version I would say is also less sanitary, there is morechance of getting and infection with the BW than with the oil. But also the Aques version is painful like test susp. and has to be taken every other day.
OUCh if you ask me.
But the problem is that winny needs to be micronized for the proper needle to take it though and proper mixing its a hard process to do and not worth the trouble if you screw it up, get capsules and measure it out and do it orally..if that what you have to do.