Long time guy usually at professionalmuscle...old ug....and renegade.... A pretty informative board you created. Was a bit skeptical but tried your IGF....9 days in and can say great bro...just started kicking in. No gear and up to 236....(was 233)but leaner ,pumps and overall full feeling. Just IGF and upped protein, taking it on workout days only in am at 60mcg. Definitely try it again...with gear.