Opinions

[Muz92]

First cycle at 22yo 80kg 1m80 high 5yearsnof solid training what are your views

 

[IronJulius]

first cycle should be test only at 400mg week 12-16 weeks

 

[Presser]

First cycle at 22yo 80kg 1m80 high 5yearsnof solid training what are your views

you've hit a wall growing after 5 years of truing I'm assuming??

 

[Muz92]

you've hit a wall growing after 5 years of truing I'm assuming??

Yeah gains aren't that much supps are good diet is good..just slow gains that's all

 

[DefMetalLifter]

First cycle at 22yo 80kg 1m80 high 5yearsnof solid training what are your views

You have enough natural testosterone at your age it would be a good idea to wait a couple more years. If ya can't wait then just run test only. I recommend 500mg/weekly for a first cycle of test e or c.

 

[Muz92]

You have enough natural testosterone at your age it would be a good idea to wait a couple more years. If ya can't wait then just run test only. I recommend 500mg/weekly for a first cycle of test e or c.

Was considering 400mg/week as my vial of testC says 200/ml
At that dosage should I run adex or just have it in hand ?
I was thinking of including proviron 25mg ED
What d'you think ?

 

[DefMetalLifter]

Was considering 400mg/week as my vial of testC says 200/ml
At that dosage should I run adex or just have it in hand ?
I was thinking of including proviron 25mg ED
What d'you think ?

Ok. 400 works too. How long you running it? I would start adex at .25mg EOD and adjust as necessary. Personally I like .5 E3D so I don't have to split one pill into 4. Proviron would be ok, but honestly first cycle I would stick with test only. This way you will see how your body reacts to it and it alone. Then on future cycles you can add things in and know how you react to each compound.

 

[Muz92]

Ok. 400 works too. How long you running it? I would start adex at .25mg EOD and adjust as necessary. Personally I like .5 E3D so I don't have to split one pill into 4. Proviron would be ok, but honestly first cycle I would stick with test only. This way you will see how your body reacts to it and it alone. Then on future cycles you can add things in and know how you react to each compound.

Well testC 400mg/ week for 12'weeks
And by when should I start pct ?
Rest 2 weeks ?

 

[DefMetalLifter]

Sounds good. Start pct 18 days after last pin. Run it 4 weeks. 2 weeks isn't enough time off unless you are trying to go pro in which case you wouldn't pct. Time on=time off is the conservative way to cycle for a recreational BB.

 

[Muz92]

Sounds good. Start pct 18 days after last pin. Run it 4 weeks. 2 weeks isn't enough time off unless you are trying to go pro in which case you wouldn't pct. Time on=time off is the conservative way to cycle for a recreational BB.

Roger that
Many thanks bro
Will clomid and nolva enough for pct ?

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

 

[DefMetalLifter]

Roger that
Many thanks bro
Will clomid and nolva enough for pct ?

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Yes. Personally I wouldn't run that much Clomid. I like 100/50/50/25. Nolva doses look good