Possible Next Cutting Cycle (opinions needed!)

[Archaic]

Hey guys, please comment on this 16 week cutting cycle, designed to help get me completely shredded by the end of week 16. I tried to relict the higher side-effect (tren)/cost (Proviron)/liver toxic (winstrol) drugs to the month before the contest.

There should still be some Equipoise in my system by week 16, promoting vascularity. The muscle - hardening drugs like winny and tren should give me increased definition once I'm totally lean.

W1 - 11) 600mg EQ (with 2400mg frontload on week1) , 300mg Cyp, Femara @ 1.25 mg ED

W12-14) 50mg Tren ED, 100mg Winstrol ED, 50mg Proviron ED,
1.25 mg Femara ED

W14-16) 150mg Tren ED, 100mg Winstrol ED, 50mg Proviron ED,
1.25 mg Femara ED

CONTEST

Thanks guys

 

[irishpride]

stats,previous cycle history would help bud..

 

[brew]

I've never done a contest, so maybe you guys do crazy shit like that that, but to me it doesn't make sense. I would replacve the cyp with prop 50-75 ED. 300 ins't worth taking IMO. I would run tren 100 ED the whole time, but DEFINETLY the last 8. I would also run halo for 12 up to the show. I like the eq, I would run it and extra 3 wks and would NOT frontload, doesn't make sense unless your using the bold base.

 

[Archaic]

OK, I am 6'3", 245lbs.

I will hopefully compete at 215 shredded and dry.

This will be my 6th or 7th cycle.

I don't want to run heavy test throughout d/t water retention/estrogen, so I switch to proviron to replace the test, which should also help harden me up.

The tren increases 2 weeks out from the contest to drasically increase my strength and hardness while I do my depletion and still need to do lots of posing practice... Also, I think the 2 weeks of really high dose tren will help bring out cuts and vascularity on stage.

Thanks for the comments, any others would be appreciated!

 

[Flexmaster]

i haven't competed either, but i know a fair amount of national competitors and a few pro's. from what i remeber you can run the cyp as you have it, then about 5 weeks out switch to prop/suspension. like brew said, down't frontload the eq IMO. other than that i think you'll look good if diet and everything else is on par.

 

[MMX2]

Will respond more when I get back...

 

[Archaic]

Sweet, thanks guys.

But why no fronting the EQ. The ester is so long (halflife of 14 days) that I want to get my blood levels up to par right off the bat! If I don't frontload the EQ will slowwwwwly slowwwwly buildup, why would I want that?

Also, this is not including my fat-burners/stims/diuretics, I plan on incorporating T3, Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Yohimbine. And diuretics the week leading up to the contest.

 

[Archaic]

Also, have any of you heard of using anadrol during the carb-up right before a contest to help carbohydrate repletion?

Thanks!!

 

[MMX2]

Also, have any of you heard of using anadrol during the carb-up right before a contest to help carbohydrate repletion?

Thanks!!

Yes, I have used it for prep, but for me I had to cut it 7-9 days out. I do know some guys that have used it right up to a few days before the show but I hold water enough, so I opt not to take it up to that point.

 

[Archaic]

An edit to my original plan; I have halved the tren dosage... I realize that this is probably too high to give any further gains... 150mg ED should be plenty.

 

[MMX2]

Remember , you don' have to use a lot of AS during a cutting cycle- and I am glad that you have revised your plan.
I also don't think you have to frontload the EQ- again no need but that is up to you.
I would also see about dropping the winny the last few weeks and picking up halo- it is awesome for hardness. If you don't have access to it, then keep what you have. Will you also be utilizing diuretics?

 

[Archaic]

Really... Halotestin. I considered this, but I don't know any bros who've used it yet. What dosage would you recommend, and what term of use is appropriate for such a toxic steroid?

I plan on running aldactone 7 days out (at a dosage yet to be determined), and diazide the friday night and saturday morning if needed. I haven't done a lot of research on a diuretic protocol yet, but I do know that I hold water like a MUTHERFUCK! Which is why I'm doing the aldactone for 7 days instead of 5...

Mmmx do you have any good formulas for dropping water and implimenting diuretics?

 

[MMX2]

Really... Halotestin. I considered this, but I don't know any bros who've used it yet. What dosage would you recommend, and what term of use is appropriate for such a toxic steroid?

I plan on running aldactone 7 days out (at a dosage yet to be determined), and diazide the friday night and saturday morning if needed. I haven't done a lot of research on a diuretic protocol yet, but I do know that I hold water like a MUTHERFUCK! Which is why I'm doing the aldactone for 7 days instead of 5...

Mmmx do you have any good formulas for dropping water and implimenting diuretics?

I would use no more than 20mg (4 tabs) for no more than 4 weeks if you can swing it. Even if you can only run it for 2-3 weeks it is awesome. Aldactone is a good mild diuretic- I begin using at 7 days out because I hold water like balloon as well then switch to dyazide for the last three days. Some people go last 2 days on dyazide ( 1/2tab morning, 1/2evening ). Watch out for cramps as well. Watch potassium intake with dyazide as well.
I would not begin to drop water till midweek of the week of the show. Limit yourself to ice chips or sips of water the day of the weigh in to the day of the show. You will never know how much you appreciate water until you have none...