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I used Prop my very first cycle at 100mg EOD for 12 weeks. I loved this stuff! I had awesome gains with it. I injected delts, glutes, and quads. It does hurt due to the high BA, but add at least .5cc of sterile grapeseed oil and it completely takes the pain away! Mmmmmm Prop is good stuff!
The Iron Bull
Banana
First of all.....y'all need to get different prop. QV sucks. If you are using gear that cause pain, its time to find another source.
But then again, you are injecting yourself with a MEXICAN animal steroid.
Now a days, prop or trenA should not cause you any pain. Any quaility producer of such will use EO.
And woody bro.....you are diluating your gear.....ALOT. Instead of say 50mg per ml, you are getting only 25mgs they way you are doing it.
Also bro...its not the BA. Why would Prop have higher BA???
And BTW...why are you using gear at 20 years old???
But then again, you are injecting yourself with a MEXICAN animal steroid.
Now a days, prop or trenA should not cause you any pain. Any quaility producer of such will use EO.
And woody bro.....you are diluating your gear.....ALOT. Instead of say 50mg per ml, you are getting only 25mgs they way you are doing it.
Also bro...its not the BA. Why would Prop have higher BA???
And BTW...why are you using gear at 20 years old???
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My I ask why you call me out like that bro? I have been researching gear for 2 years now. I know what I am doing. and yes Prop can cause more pain due to higher BA content. I used BD's Test Prop and it caused alot of soreness. Just because I am 20 does not mean I do not know what I am talking about. There are alot of highly respected members here who can attest to that. It's my busniess using gear at age 20. It's funny though I may be "diluting my gear ALOT it still seemed to work wonders. Must have done something right? Adding sterile grapeseed oil to a painful inject will ease the pain and I have not seen any evidence showing that by doing this causes less of an effect while using AAS. I know guys on this board who add grapeseed oil to their cycles every time and they are monsters.
The Iron Bull
Banana
I didnt call you out Bro.....just trying to provide correct information for everyone.
LOL....OMG, are serious Bro?
Common sense should dictate that by add more fluid to ANYTHING it will become diluated.
According to you, if add oil to all my gear, I will have more gear but at the same strength.
And Bro....if you have a high BA content in anything, it will cause more pain but that isnt the reason why Test Prop is more painful
And I was just wondering why a smart lad like you would be using steroids at the age of ?????
LOL....OMG, are serious Bro?
Common sense should dictate that by add more fluid to ANYTHING it will become diluated.
According to you, if add oil to all my gear, I will have more gear but at the same strength.
And Bro....if you have a high BA content in anything, it will cause more pain but that isnt the reason why Test Prop is more painful
And I was just wondering why a smart lad like you would be using steroids at the age of ?????
The Iron Bull
Banana
Same here bro.....quads are sometimes a bitch for me.
But Bro....no disrepect, but you are wrong about potency,
You can not add more oil to anything without making the compound weaker.
Its basic Chemisty 101....
Just think about it.....
If I was to produce...say 100mg per ml of TestP at 10mls....
if he is adding a half of ml per ml, which brings the 10ml up to a total of 20ml.
Now, when I made this...I would have to use 1 gram of TestP to make 100mg per ml at 10mls.
To keep the same potency of a 100mg per ml at 20ml........I would have to use 2 grams of powder TestProp!!
So by adding 10mls, you actually using only 50mg per ml
Its just common sense Bros......
Dont believe me??
Heres a calculator to figuire it out on your own.
http://absinth.greatnow.com/calcpowder2.html
oh, the oil has noting to do with the asorption of steroid into your system.....its the attached ester that determines this fact.
You basically use the same amount of oil for most steroids in the same prescribed dosage.
But Bro....no disrepect, but you are wrong about potency,
You can not add more oil to anything without making the compound weaker.
Its basic Chemisty 101....
Just think about it.....
If I was to produce...say 100mg per ml of TestP at 10mls....
if he is adding a half of ml per ml, which brings the 10ml up to a total of 20ml.
Now, when I made this...I would have to use 1 gram of TestP to make 100mg per ml at 10mls.
To keep the same potency of a 100mg per ml at 20ml........I would have to use 2 grams of powder TestProp!!
So by adding 10mls, you actually using only 50mg per ml
Its just common sense Bros......
Dont believe me??
Heres a calculator to figuire it out on your own.
http://absinth.greatnow.com/calcpowder2.html
oh, the oil has noting to do with the asorption of steroid into your system.....its the attached ester that determines this fact.
You basically use the same amount of oil for most steroids in the same prescribed dosage.
brew
New member
oh, the oil has noting to do with the asorption of steroid into your system.....its the attached ester that determines this fact.
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I'm not buying this. The ester does play the biggest role I will give you that, but you can't disregard the characteristics of the carrier. Knowing the way oil acts in an aqueous environment tells me it would take more work (time ) to absorb the oil, than it would water. Your not fighting and hyophilic/hydophobic interaction with water, so it is going to happen faster and more easily. Why do you think base compounds and winny have traditionally been water based. The half lives of theses coumpound are quick and delivery is time sensitive.
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I'm not buying this. The ester does play the biggest role I will give you that, but you can't disregard the characteristics of the carrier. Knowing the way oil acts in an aqueous environment tells me it would take more work (time ) to absorb the oil, than it would water. Your not fighting and hyophilic/hydophobic interaction with water, so it is going to happen faster and more easily. Why do you think base compounds and winny have traditionally been water based. The half lives of theses coumpound are quick and delivery is time sensitive.
NAIR
MuscleChemistry Registered Member
Good points there brew.
But I still don’t really get what this guy is arguing about. Many BBrs dilute their dosages to avoid painful dosages by adding additional oil (such as grapeseed) to their already, pre-drawn dosage. This means that you draw from your regular dosed prop (lets say 100/mg per ml) and then add oil to that individual shot. Weather you ad another ML or 100 who really gives a shit? Your still dosing with the same TOTAL amount of the compound but with a lower concentration…which in no way shape or form matters!!!
But I still don’t really get what this guy is arguing about. Many BBrs dilute their dosages to avoid painful dosages by adding additional oil (such as grapeseed) to their already, pre-drawn dosage. This means that you draw from your regular dosed prop (lets say 100/mg per ml) and then add oil to that individual shot. Weather you ad another ML or 100 who really gives a shit? Your still dosing with the same TOTAL amount of the compound but with a lower concentration…which in no way shape or form matters!!!
The Iron Bull
Banana
sandiego said:
Bro...i'm not arguing about anything.....
Do you homebrew?
And did you not noticed that brew didnt disagree with me on adding oil??
Anyways, how can it be the same TOTAL amount when you are adding to it???
So, lets say you have 100mg per ml, now add a half ml.....what do you have??
Sure isnt going to be 100mg per ml and a half.....its going to be a lot weaker.
Lets say.....75mg per ml and a half.
Now, is that the same as 100mg per ml?
No, its weaker with more oil.
This is the point I am trying to establish here.
Unionlineman
New member
I think body2see summed this all up.
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