Proper PCT for 1st cycle

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yamaha11

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bros--

I need some help on PROPER pct for my 1st cycle.
i will be running test prop/eq @ 200mg/400mg week for 10 wks--
I will front load the eq for 2-3 weeks @ 400mgs wk.

i cannot find the answers i am looking for by searching, so let me spell them out--

HCG--I know hcg is run towards the end of the cycle to protect agains testicular atrophy. But what i need to know is exactly how much/dosages & how often to take it. Also, how far into my cycle do i need to start it? Should i start it @ week 8, 9 or 10?

Nolvadex--is nolvadex used only for periodical uses when gyno rears its ugly head, or is it ran continuously through the cycle?
what dosages should i use if gyno shows? how long should i run it?

Clomid--Clomid confuses me. I know it is an anti-e but what effectiveness does it have? Should i avoid this one? if not, how should i run it?


I have another question i cant find the answer for--

what type of syringes/sizes work the best for the gear i am running?
what syringes/sizes should i use for the hcg


I appreciate everyones help on this one
thanks bros
 
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hcg varies, but this is what i do:

15000 iu's of hcg 1 week after my cycle ends, 10000 iu's the second week, and 5000 the third, then i stop.

nolvadex, depending on what you taking and for how long. with my cycles i take one every other day during my cycles. if my nipples start to feel some soreness i take one every day. i have heard and read that nolvadex can block test receptors.

clomid, is an anti-e, but it mainly boost your own natural test levels back to normal by elevating follicle hormone and luteinizing hormone. take 1-2 tablets a day for 4 to 6 weeks, starting the last week of your cycle.

i prefer the 23 gauge 1 inch needle for the gear and the hcg.
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later bro
 
Well, I have a completely different opinion on all of this.
#1 I don't like your cycle. eq at 400 yes. The prop needs to be at least 50 ED or if you must 100EOD. I personally would do 75 ED but that me
#2 I don't beleive hcg is necessary in this light of a cycle when you only going 10 wks. Instead, hit clomid every thrid wk at 100 ED for 3/4 days. Not a big hcg fan
 
I agree with brew, I would run the test prop at 50mg/ed or 100mg/eod.

You don't have to use the HCG but if you decide to make sure you finish it before you began PCT. HCG increases the aromatase activity in leydig cells, this will increase estrogen, I would not use more then 500iu's at a time or per day (as to limit aromatase activity). I would suggest 500iu per day for the first week and 250iu for the second week.

As far as clomid goes it is actually a fertility drug for women, it is a weak oestrogen so it could be used as a anti-e but it is poor in this regard. Nolvadex would work much better.
 
I like to think of HCG as Jumper cables for your endocrine system, It will restart your system but only temporarily until it wears off, I use it to "Jump Start" Post cycle until the slower acting Clomid reactivates my endogenous hormones.

And I always wait late into my PCT to take Nolva, because after a heavy cycle peoples bodies tend to react by making estrogen even sometimes weeks after PCT.

Of course all these things can vary depending on your Roid's, Cycle Length, Individual persons body reaction.
Theirs allot of custom tailoring that has to be worked out from person to person, Because everyone's body reacts differently, however their are general guidelines that don't change.
 
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