Quality of Test question

[Ciz]

Hi guys

I am looking in to starting my first run on test. To set out the question early:

1. Is there a difference in quality of test? For example, test from Thailand compare to the US/Europe?

I live in Australia and the majority of test available is from Thailand. Many people at my gym use it and some have bad side effects (completely red skin, very bad acne etc). My bodybuilder friend who I discussed this with thinks it is the quality of the test, and that European/US test is generally of much higher quality and therefore much less prone to giving the user side effects. He gets his from the US/Europe and does not have these sides.

2. I know that they sell imports from the US/Europe in Thailand, does anyone know of any names of companies which are from these places? For example, I know Organon is from the Netherlands, any others?

Thanks in advance

Ciz

 

[Ox 51]

Bump. There can be a difference just based on how it's mixed, but I couldn't tell you which countries are producing the best test.

 

[Presser]

Hi guys

I am looking in to starting my first run on test. To set out the question early:

1. Is there a difference in quality of test? For example, test from Thailand compare to the US/Europe?

I live in Australia and the majority of test available is from Thailand. Many people at my gym use it and some have bad side effects (completely red skin, very bad acne etc). My bodybuilder friend who I discussed this with thinks it is the quality of the test, and that European/US test is generally of much higher quality and therefore much less prone to giving the user side effects. He gets his from the US/Europe and does not have these sides.

2. I know that they sell imports from the US/Europe in Thailand, does anyone know of any names of companies which are from these places? For example, I know Organon is from the Netherlands, any others?

Thanks in advance

Ciz

Yeah ofcourse Test has different qualitys, but acne you can get from test period, that has nothing to do with the quality. As for the the best countrys to get quality test from, well i think the better questions is what companys sell the better test, and I would say Human grade Test is best and some of these companys are good, upjohn, organon, jelfa, schering, ect

 

[Ciz]

Thanks Presser and Ox 51

I'll see if any of those brands are stocked in Thailand. I'm very conscious of getting as high quality product as possible as this will be my first time.

If I outline what I plan on taking, can guys on here also provide advice on what you think?

Cheers

Ciz

 

[bigghorn]

Some of the test I've seen people get from Thailand are not produced in super sanitary conditions like some of the Mexican brands available from the local Mexico pharmacy. Like Presser and everyones saying if you stay with a reputable worldwide brand the odds of some sides are nil but again applies to peoples age , dosage,and what they are trying to accomplish. Keep us informed I know how Australia customs are one strict outfit that's pretty thorough on what comes in.

 

[Ciz]

Yeah cheers bigghorn, I'll stick to the brands that Presser mentioned because I don't want to risk getting a generic Thai brand if I'm not purchasing it myself.

My bodybuilder friend basically said that the 'new way' of thinking is to do much smaller amounts but for longer periods (for example, 5 months). Here is what he suggested:

Sust 350 = 1 ml every 14 days (or Sust 250 if I can't get 350)
Test (C or E) = 500 mg to 1 ml every 4 weeks

He basically said we will discuss in more detail when I decide to do it and now I have decided I will go back clarify which type of test (C or E or another).

Does the above look like a good start? Let me know if you want more info. Appreciate the advice as I have no experience and would like further perspectives because I have NO idea if these are small or large amounts and am doing lots of reading on the topic.

Thanks guys!

 

[bigghorn]

Hey Ciz is this your very first ever cycle? If so im not so sure the Sus 350 is a great choice as I have read online there are better choices for virgin receptors . I'm sure you've scoured the net and have seen or read advice along with advice from your friend . But one thing is correct . The smallest dose possible to obtain desired results will result in less sides of the gear you are taken, this all depends on age and diet of course . More people will chime in here . So keep reading bro.

 

[Ciz]

Yes - my first ever cycle.

I have taken GHRP6 and CJC 1295 w DAC for the last couple of months and also IGF LR3 for the last 3 weeks or so and things are moving in the right direction. I know these will give me some benefits, but not get me to my goal.

Do you think Sust 250 would be better than 350 bigghorn? I'm not looking for HUGE changes, which is why he suggested these low doses because I am not going to compete, just looking to improve the way I look.

I'm 25 - diet is spot on now that I have had my bodybuilder mate write it up. Happy to post diet/training/stats/goals if it helps form your opinion.

Cheers guys

 

[muscleitis]

do not do either of those cycles. they are incorrect. go with tes 200 mg t or c and take 500 a week and youll be happy. i would stress doing a bit more research prior to begining, as your "bodybuilder friend" is WAY off

 

[Ciz]

do not do either of those cycles. they are incorrect. go with tes 200 mg t or c and take 500 a week and youll be happy. i would stress doing a bit more research prior to begining, as your "bodybuilder friend" is WAY off

Hey muscleitis

Thanks for the response. The Sust 250 and Test are intended to be taken simultaneously, not as 'separate' cycles. So 1 ml Sust 250 every 2 weeks AND 500 mg test C or E every 4 weeks for say 5 months before taking 1-2 months off.

Would that then make more sense to you to do it like that? Or does it still look way off the mark for you? This is what has been suggested to me anyway and am looking for honest critiques.

Do these doses seem high/low to those experienced with test?

Cheers

Ciz

 

[Ox 51]

Ciz, I'm not sure that this "new way of thinking" makes much sense. Test C or E are both in your system for about 10 days, so taking them every 4 weeks doesn't make any sense to me. If you are not looking for huge changes, I would just start with 250 mg A WEEK of the test c or e. You will get good solid results, from that dose.

I also agree with the other guys that sust is a bit much for a first cycle. You will get good results from just the test alone on a first cycle. And I'd save the sust until you've been using for a year or two.

 

[natnlpwrchamp]

r u running orals too? cyp has good results. 600 mg the max per week. combinations work really good together. sus 400 is good stuff too.

 

[bigghorn]

Hey Ciz . Drop the sus whatever mg all together.If you read up on sustanon products they contain multiple types of test esters. That product is used by advanced meatheads that know ester weights and length of
time each ester is in the body. If you do that "new way" odd cycle your hormone level
will be up and down and not consistent within body. Google sustanon
250 and read what it says and kinda correct your friend. Take some
Cyp and dbol and call it good..or heck Superdrol
It.

 

[Zeus]

This cycle makes no sense for a newbie. Like the others said, run either test c or test e at 500 to 600 a week. Sust is not for a first cycle. Why go straight human grade? There are plenty of great UG labs maken test that is just fckn awesome. DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!! Human grade is just way to expensive esp. when you can get test that is just as good and safe through a UGL. Biohazard is hands down the BEST AAS Period.....

 

[bigghorn]

Shit Zeus finally someone that knows biohazard.You are right 100%