Question by member aquatic

[saudades]

Question posted by member aquatic:
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My Organon Sustanon expired on 1/06 can it still be used?

second I put it in the freezer and it got cloudy and dense. Good or fake?
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Answer:
1. Yes, although it may not be as strong as you'd like.
2. That just shows it is made of oil. That's what happens to oil when it gets cold. Can't tell if it is good or fake by doing that.

 

[DB006]

well if it was real it would probably crystalize in the freezer.

 

[highside]

You can tell if it is fake by putting it in the freezer and seeing if it clouds up. This is an old trick. Leave it in for 20 minutes or so and it should be cloudy. The cloudiness means there is some type of substance (test) in the oil. If it stays clear and still looks like oil, it is probably fake. I am not sure, but I think the cloudiness comes from the test freezing inside the oil. The tiny frozen particle make it cloudy but it does not freeze solid because of the oil.

 

[dreww]

You can tell if it is fake by putting it in the freezer and seeing if it clouds up. This is an old trick. Leave it in for 20 minutes or so and it should be cloudy. The cloudiness means there is some type of substance (test) in the oil. If it stays clear and still looks like oil, it is probably fake. I am not sure, but I think the cloudiness comes from the test freezing inside the oil. The tiny frozen particle make it cloudy but it does not freeze solid because of the oil.

that makes alot of sense. It probably would freeze solid if the temp were low enough.

 

[saudades]

Are you guys sure that it is the chemical that is causing the cloudiness? Most oils though they don't freeze completely as the temperature lowers, they do become cloudy on their own because of a saturated fat component in the oil. A completely unsaturated oil will not become cloudy, I should add.

My question would be when you do this test, if the test freezes, does it come out of solution and get ruined when you warm it back up?

 

[highside]

Are you guys sure that it is the chemical that is causing the cloudiness? Most oils though they don't freeze completely as the temperature lowers, they do become cloudy on their own because of a saturated fat component in the oil. A completely unsaturated oil will not become cloudy, I should add.

My question would be when you do this test, if the test freezes, does it come out of solution and get ruined when you warm it back up?

I do not know for sure if it effects the test, but from what I have read others say it does not. You can supposedly freeze test and heat it up pretty hot also without it affecting it. I am no scientist so I do not know for sure. I have done this test years ago with old organon karachi amps. I did it to one of my spare amps and did not do it too all of them in case it did affect the test. There was on old thread on this test, but it was from 2000 or 2001 and I can not find it.

 

[mcgaret]

thats over two years expiried. I would recomend against it - but if it was all I had I'd
probably use it. (do as I say not as I do - lol)

 

[saudades]

I do not know for sure if it effects the test, but from what I have read others say it does not. You can supposedly freeze test and heat it up pretty hot also without it affecting it. I am no scientist so I do not know for sure. I have done this test years ago with old organon karachi amps. I did it to one of my spare amps and did not do it too all of them in case it did affect the test. There was on old thread on this test, but it was from 2000 or 2001 and I can not find it.

Hmm...very interesting.