OK, so now I have to say something. First off, look at that Paco Bautista guy, there's some gyno - Ronnie doesn't have gyno in this picture or at any other given time for that matter. I'm sure at the first signs, he has the money (and Joe's backing of course) to either buy more anti-e type drugs or get surgery if necessary. I see all you guys ragging him and I don't understand why.....from every interview I read where other bodybuilders talk about him, they say he's a nice guy and an incredible, if not unbeatable, bodybuilder. I remember when he came from out of nowhere and won the Mr. O, everybody loved him then. Now, everyone's hating on him and talking all this shit about him....what gives?? I guess by the same standards, everyone will hate Jay after he wins the Arnold next year and at the same time most everyone will jump on the Gunter bandwagon and say that HE should have won every show he entered.....I just don't understand what everyone has against the champ. I like him because he's strong, plain and simple. Who else can put up the 200's on incline after doing flat bench?? Who else can deadlift friggin 805 for reps?? I've met a few bodybuilders and with the exception of Levrone, they were cool as shit. I saw Jay and Maz at the Monica Brant, and then Chris C and Gunter at the same place the following year. All cool, especially Gunter - he's probably the nicest guy I've met in a long time. What I'm saying is why all the animosity towards Ronnie?? I'm sure that some of us on this board in our "off" seasons accumulate a little body fat, too. Shit man, as droopy as I look now in my quest to add mass over the winter, I look like I could feed a newborn litter of pups......