Started Cycle Today....Couple Questions...

[Pharm_Fed]

Well I have officially crossed over to the dark side I pinned my first shot of Sust325 this morning and had a Dbol with breakfast lunch and dinner.

Couple things though. I pinned my left shoulder and it didn't bother me at all when I did it, but now it's sore like a new inmate's butthole. I don't know if the Sust is just painful, if I was too shaky with the needle or what. Anyone that's used Axio Sust325 have some input on this?

Also, I feel like death. Literally. I had my normal breakfast, felt fine, and got to work. About an hour later started feeling like all I wanted to do was lie down and go to sleep. Extreme lethargy, no appetite, stuffy nose/sinuses. I've heard people refer to test flu, so I assume that's what it is. How long should I expect this to last before I start feeling good again?

Other than that, no problems. Thanks for any input

 

[h8tr3d]

Well I have officially crossed over to the dark side I pinned my first shot of Sust325 this morning and had a Dbol with breakfast lunch and dinner.

Couple things though. I pinned my left shoulder and it didn't bother me at all when I did it, but now it's sore like a new inmate's butthole. I don't know if the Sust is just painful, if I was too shaky with the needle or what. Anyone that's used Axio Sust325 have some input on this?

Also, I feel like death. Literally. I had my normal breakfast, felt fine, and got to work. About an hour later started feeling like all I wanted to do was lie down and go to sleep. Extreme lethargy, no appetite, stuffy nose/sinuses. I've heard people refer to test flu, so I assume that's what it is. How long should I expect this to last before I start feeling good again?

Other than that, no problems. Thanks for any input

It's all normal bro. I just started sust 325 too (yesterday), and my quad is sore as a mofo. If you do delts, definately split it in 2 pins, one in each delt. you will most likely get site swelling, and you want to be swole on both sides ya know!

Its funny you say that, because all the same stuff happened to me 2day too..... being tired and sore. Also try to leave the pin in for about half a minute or so after, so you dont get any leakage

start a photo journal with befores and afters so you can track your progress with pics

 

[Pharm_Fed]

It's all normal bro. I just started sust 325 too (yesterday), and my quad is sore as a mofo. If you do delts, definately split it in 2 pins, one in each delt. you will most likely get site swelling, and you want to be swole on both sides ya know!

Its funny you say that, because all the same stuff happened to me 2day too..... being tired and sore. Also try to leave the pin in for about half a minute or so after, so you dont get any leakage

start a photo journal with befores and afters so you can track your progress with pics

Ok, I figured it was all normal, just eager to feel better. Hopefully I only feel like crap for a day or two.

I'll try and get some pics this week before I get all blowed up, lol.

 

[The Dude]

Ok, I figured it was all normal, just eager to feel better. Hopefully I only feel like crap for a day or two.

I'll try and get some pics this week before I get all blowed up, lol.

I got some steroid flu symptoms from the Sust 325 in the beginning, a little pain, but I also mixed it with test cyp and Deca... one cc of each and did it bilaterally. The stuff is awesome though. I just ran out and I'm going to have to switch to all test cyp for a bit until I can get more. I really liked it.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

I got some steroid flu symptoms from the Sust 325 in the beginning, a little pain, but I also mixed it with test cyp and Deca... one cc of each and did it bilaterally. The stuff is awesome though. I just ran out and I'm going to have to switch to all test cyp for a bit until I can get more. I really liked it.

How quickly did you notice/should I notice it working?

 

[h8tr3d]

How quickly did you notice/should I notice it working?

a week or two you should start noticing your viens popping more, and your muscles feel way fuller, and swole. you'll start to get water weight as well. I see strength gains around week 4-5

 

[Pharm_Fed]

a week or two you should start noticing your viens popping more, and your muscles feel way fuller, and swole. you'll start to get water weight as well. I see strength gains around week 4-5

Cool. Here's another question, I just stepped on the scale and I'm actually down a couple pounds from this morning. That's VERY unusual. Most of the time I weigh 4-5lbs more at night. This is what my diet looked like today.

0630 - Breakfast shake (1cup oats, 2scoops whey, 2TBSP EVOO, 1TBSP Honey, 1Cup blueberries, 1.5cup milk, some cinnamon)

0800 - 8oz sausage and about 2/3cup hash browns

1000 - 2 scoops whey, 2TBSP EVOO

1200 - Pork Ribs, 1cup Mashed sweet potatoes

1400 - 2 scoops whey, 2TBSP EVOO

PWO - 2 scoops whey, 5-6TBSP gatorade powder

2000 - Meatloaf, 1 whole tomato

and I will have 2 scoops of casein shake at 2200 right before bed.

Should be about 350-400g protein, 250-300 carbs, maybe 100g fat (just guessing). Seems like that should be plenty to grow on.

Is it normal to drop a couple pounds right away and then gain it back? I remember skinny1 had a thread where the same thing happened to him.

 

[dreww]

gear can speed up your metabolism. hell, simple eating more can spike your metabolism.
dont let a few lbs get you thinking too much. a good turd can put be down 4 to 5 lbs.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

gear can speed up your metabolism. hell, simple eating more can spike your metabolism.
dont let a few lbs get you thinking too much. a good turd can put be down 4 to 5 lbs.

Ok cool, thanks for the input.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

Well, don't feel quite so terrible today, appetite is still MIA. Have to force down my food, hope that gets better. I'm guessing that's probably my liver is so stressed from the orals?

 

[The Dude]

How quickly did you notice/should I notice it working?

It will be different for everyone. I've been doing steroids for so long that I never really notice... well yesterday I did. At this point I'm thinking I'm near topping out unless I take the next step. I'm 9 weeks in and up 10 pounds even though I haven't been able to do legs b/c of my knee injury. They don't shrink. I'm also on a strong dose of anti E so it isn't water weight. Strength has gotten pretty damn good despite the new program. The flu symptoms usually subside in a week or so.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

It will be different for everyone. I've been doing steroids for so long that I never really notice... well yesterday I did. At this point I'm thinking I'm near topping out unless I take the next step. I'm 9 weeks in and up 10 pounds even though I haven't been able to do legs b/c of my knee injury. They don't shrink. I'm also on a strong dose of anti E so it isn't water weight. Strength has gotten pretty damn good despite the new program. The flu symptoms usually subside in a week or so.

I assume that means my appetite should start coming back after a week as well?

 

[LeatherHead]

a week or two you should start noticing your viens popping more, and your muscles feel way fuller, and swole. you'll start to get water weight as well. I see strength gains around week 4-5

Yup... I've been on Sust325 for about a week now, and I'm definitely starting to get more and more vascular. My pumps seem to be more intense, too.

 

[skinny1]

Is it normal to drop a couple pounds right away and then gain it back? I remember skinny1 had a thread where the same thing happened to him.[/QUOTE]



It is not normal to lose weight on a cycle like yours. I ran a heavy cycle fore 6 weeks and lost a total of 11 pounds, lost vascularity and strength and had a bloated stomach. Probably the worst I've looked and felt in years. Had several gym buddies with the same symtoms so I know it wasn't just me. It was BAD gear.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

It is not normal to lose weight on a cycle like yours. I ran a heavy cycle fore 6 weeks and lost a total of 11 pounds, lost vascularity and strength and had a bloated stomach. Probably the worst I've looked and felt in years. Had several gym buddies with the same symtoms so I know it wasn't just me. It was BAD gear.

I'm not worried about it anymore. Weight is back up and actually a few pounds higher than it was last week. Feeling better today too, things are looking up.

 

[dreww]

a small % of users do lose their appetite from orals. i experience this and avoid using them when 'bulking'.

 

[Get_Swole]

you will be great bro that dbol should be kicking in full force soon, cant believe i havent been around to hear you crossed over haha. Congrats buddy theres no turning back now haha. Good luck bro keep hitting it hard and you will love the progress.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

you will be great bro that dbol should be kicking in full force soon, cant believe i havent been around to hear you crossed over haha. Congrats buddy theres no turning back now haha. Good luck bro keep hitting it hard and you will love the progress.

Haha, thanks bro. I feel great today. No more flu-like symptoms and my appetite is coming back slowly. My weight has already jumped up about 7 pounds, which I'm sure is mostly water, but hey, it's just the first week.

 

[h8tr3d]

Haha, thanks bro. I feel great today. No more flu-like symptoms and my appetite is coming back slowly. My weight has already jumped up about 7 pounds, which I'm sure is mostly water, but hey, it's just the first week.

for your first cycle, you will even enjoy the water weight bro!:bber: