Turinabol and Proviron Mesterolone

[echo419]

so I'm reading about both of these and wondering why I've never tried either. from what I gather the Turin is alot like dbol just not as "strong" and you are likely to retain less water. maybe the aviability of dbol is why.

thoughts and exp?

I'm going to be ramping things up big time in like July or a bit later for a powerlifting meet in september then I'm going for broke in terms of size. I've got to get my symetry back if I want to be a body builder. hopefully I can get it together before I would have to compete in "Masters".

 

[BigZ]

Okay, I've used turinabol (tbol), but I've never heard of proin. I did a search on it, and all I can find is that it's used for canine incontinence. I don't think you really want to use that.

If you're going for size, I would go with good ol' dbol. Tbol is supposed to give the same lean muscle gain without all the water retention that dbol brings. That said, there's some advantage to the water gain with dbol, probably in the way of stretching the muscle fascia. Muscles are 70% water. Most of the old pros built their size with not much more than a lot of dbol, so there's a way to use it and not lose all the gains you made, but if you are the kind of person that doesn't normally retain water (like me), then there won't be much difference between tbol and dbol, in which case I'd stick with test and tren.

 

[echo419]

PROVIRON (Mesterolone )
Auto correct got me I meant Proviron.

 

[guardianactual]

Proviron won't build muscle, but @ high doses 100+ can lean u up very well... Buddy uses 150mg w/ test of course... He says 2 weeks he drops ton of fat & he claims faster than tren but I'm skeptical on anything beating tren! But it did shred him up. Tbol is similar to dbol & var kinda mix... Basically it's var w/ more umph! Dbol for me on bulk... Tbol recomp Var cut my $.02

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Proviron won't build muscle, but @ high doses 100+ can lean u up very well... Buddy uses 150mg w/ test of course... He says 2 weeks he drops ton of fat & he claims faster than tren but I'm skeptical on anything beating tren! But it did shred him up. Tbol is similar to dbol & var kinda mix... Basically it's var w/ more umph! Dbol for me on bulk... Tbol recomp Var cut my $.02

 

[echo419]

Proviron won't build muscle, but @ high doses 100+ can lean u up very well... Buddy uses 150mg w/ test of course... He says 2 weeks he drops ton of fat & he claims faster than tren but I'm skeptical on anything beating tren! But it did shred him up. Tbol is similar to dbol & var kinda mix... Basically it's var w/ more umph! Dbol for me on bulk... Tbol recomp Var cut my $.02

cool. that's what I was thinking. really I'm just kinda wanting to try something new. haven't really been able to break the 224 mark yet but I've put pratically zero effort into a good food plan. I've really got to start preparing all my own food and eating on a schedule.

so far all I've done is:
test(sust, cyp, eth)
EQ
tren
dbol
var
deca(it wasn't much and only for a little bit. heard it might help my joints)
HGH(just one kit after my pec surgery)
MC igf-1

ok so I guess that is quite a bit. lol

 

[Buffalo]

Never liked tbol. You have to run it high and for a long time. I'd rather us var

Proviron is awesome but you don't run it alone. it's great to bridge in between cycles, especially after decca. and it is it's own AI. Proviron releases more "active" testosterone instead of bound because of SHBG but it's sucks for muscle building but because it releases more it stacks with everything else. I've never ran Proviron more than 50mg ed, never had a need to.

 

[charliebigspuds]

Never liked tbol. You have to run it high and for a long time. I'd rather us var

Proviron is awesome but you don't run it alone. it's great to bridge in between cycles, especially after decca. and it is it's own AI. Proviron releases more "active" testosterone instead of bound because of SHBG but it's sucks for muscle building but because it releases more it stacks with everything else. I've never ran Proviron more than 50mg ed, never had a need to.

yeah i agree with buflao on all counts but ive never bridged with it..but it does stack well and i do feal hard and lean on it like buffalo said ive never had the need to run higher than 50mg.
on a plus side running 50mg i shot my load twice in one shag which i have not done since i was a wee young man.

 

[charliebigspuds]

Never liked tbol. You have to run it high and for a long time. I'd rather us var

Proviron is awesome but you don't run it alone. it's great to bridge in between cycles, especially after decca. and it is it's own AI. Proviron releases more "active" testosterone instead of bound because of SHBG but it's sucks for muscle building but because it releases more it stacks with everything else. I've never ran Proviron more than 50mg ed, never had a need to.

yeah i agree with buflao on all counts but ive never bridged with it..but it does stack well and i do feal hard and lean on it like buffalo said ive never had the need to run higher than 50mg.
on a plus side running 50mg i shot my load twice in one shag which i have not done since i was a wee young man.

 

[Buffalo]

yeah i agree with buflao on all counts but ive never bridged with it..but it does stack well and i do feal hard and lean on it like buffalo said ive never had the need to run higher than 50mg.
on a plus side running 50mg i shot my load twice in one shag which i have not done since i was a wee young man.

Oh yeah dude, proviron and cialis and my wife is feeling me for a few days lol. great stuff and but I don't hear of a lot of guys using it but it should be.

 

[Presser]

nope never used it myself,

 

[guardianactual]

Short ester test is amazing even if used to jump test e... Even if u use an oral I will use test p or test a every time from now on... felt it by week 2... like sust but I feel its more stable... I want TNE Test base next time If u wanna gain try anadrol/Deca/test if ur cutting Var/test/tren... GH w/ either is a positive.... IGF1 too even w GH... Or if u dare add slin... GAINS GAINS GAINS!

 

[guardianactual]

I plan to bridge 50mg w/ Ostarine & IGF1. Osta 4 anabolic proviron to keep test up maybe hCG low dose or clomid... IK guys who use clomid w/ asin boost test by 100-300 points baseline for them. Add proviron possible higher? IDK if that's a good idea for a bridge but IK ppl who do it & r fing JACKED!