UG stuff underdosed ? Bunk ?

[Chris250]

I was bored at work and went to that site (yes that site) getbig and was reading GH15 post (undercover IFBB pro) and he was saying that all UG stuff is either underdosed, or just bunk...He recommended only human grade stuff...What do you guys think ???

 

[nuknuk]

no way, thats bullshit.

 

[optimalbalance]

agree......bullshit. Just depends on your UG. Can't build into a reputable business selling crap. Everyone wants the "good stuff".

 

[Get_Swole]

i think its stupid. Ive had UG gear that was way overdosed. Complete shit.

 

[Chris250]

Yeah this gh15 guy (the supposed undercover pro) has said some pretty crazy stuff, and has said some intresting things to...If you go there just do a search on (gh15) and you will find all his post...He talks about pro cycles and alot of other interesting things...I dont know if its real or not but its interesting

 

[jtunderdog]

I don't think making a blanket statement like that is ever gonna be valid. Sounds like he got some bad stuff and is pissed or is a source trying to get some people on the site to shop him instead of reputable ug labs. Just my two cents.

 

[dreww]

he probably says that cause he's got a great, legit pharm grade source.
I would think any decent pro would have a hookup like that.

probably a "dont knock it till ya tried it" situation. He's never tried UG gear, and is justifying his only using pharma

 

[MrPerfect]

ive used great UG stuff, and sometimes its even OVERdosed, its really all boils down to who your dealing with.

but of course Human Grade is the wayto go, but not all of us have that type of cash........ $16 a amp HAHA

 

[jtunderdog]

Yep I ran schering primo at 400 mgs a week once and well I only have one kidney and some kid in China has the other. LOL.

 

[saudades]

A lot of mine has been overdosed or just right. For example, the syntrop tren e I had was so strong, I'm pretty sure it was overdosed--and I am definitely NOT complaining, lol.

 

[saturn1]

Ahhhhh this is getting old. I preffer Human grade myself but I have made exception for AX** because I did find it to be clean and potent.

Im sure there are plenty of UG's that do skim off the top.....Hell I knew a guy who ran a UG in which he underdosed it slightly but not enough where one would notice. He would put only prop and enathate on a bottle labled to have 4 esters. He would use tren on masteron bottles and no one ever knew. He ran that op for over 5 years from mexico. He put 30mg in 50mg labled dbol tabs......No one knew. He would make legite stuff and send it off to be tested and people ate it up. Even though he cut corners like that people still made gains off his stuff and loved it.

 

[nuknuk]

Ahhhhh this is getting old. I preffer Human grade myself but I have made exception for AX** because I did find it to be clean and potent.

Im sure there are plenty of UG's that do skim off the top.....Hell I knew a guy who ran a UG in which he underdosed it slightly but not enough where one would notice. He would put only prop and enathate on a bottle labled to have 4 esters. He would use tren on masteron bottles and no one ever knew. He ran that op for over 5 years from mexico. He put 30mg in 50mg labled dbol tabs......No one knew. He would make legite stuff and send it off to be tested and people ate it up. Even though he cut corners like that people still made gains off his stuff and loved it.

That sounds about right.

 

[saudades]

Well, of course it can happen. We hope that it doesn't, but it does. So far, I've found GXL's stuff to be equal to the human grade that I use while another shop, A*** (NOT Axio), seems to be decidedly underdosed and uses a lot of BA to make it seem like it is potent. But to say all UG is underdosed as a blanket statement, as this gh15 said, I believe is not true. But then again, what is the rest of us supposed to do considering we can't readily get human grade like this guy probably can.

 

[Chris250]

he suppose to be this pro IFBB bodybuilder that knows the in's and out's of this sport..Some of his statements are pretty far fetched...But he has posted some IFBB cycles and the doses are waaaaay up there..But he says that to support a 250-280lbs of lean mass you have to feed it, and use alot of gear...So who know's...He might be some internet jerkoff

 

[Chris250]

Remember the variables, your receptors will eventually become saturated or used to a dosage...I used to get amazing results from 500mgs, but now that wouldn't so much as phase me....That has NOTHING to do with the brand in a case like mine... It is from years of using and abusing dosages...Granted the opposite is possible, getting shit and taking 2grams a day with no results.

I know several pros who use 2g or more plus a week, 150mgs of Abombs, etc, etc, etc....Most of these guys built up to this dose and are taking other items to counter all the negative sides you are going to get from a dose like that...

I have used UG brands that are better than Human Grade, so thats a myth. UG tren IMO is always better than any other version. I have never found UG primo that is as good as Human Grade. I have had many versions of TEST and SUST that are UG and superior.

If you know your brand you have no worries. If you don't you are taking a chance.

What brand exactly are you referring to??

Im not really referring to a brand at all...Im just stating what he said, and just wanted everyone opinion on this...I dont really believe it myself, becasue I use Nian and have gotten great results from his products...Just wanted to get a good topic started ...

 

[saturn1]

he suppose to be this pro IFBB bodybuilder that knows the in's and out's of this sport..Some of his statements are pretty far fetched...But he has posted some IFBB cycles and the doses are waaaaay up there..But he says that to support a 250-280lbs of lean mass you have to feed it, and use alot of gear...So who know's...He might be some internet jerkoff

Thats usually the case......Mostly non-bodybuilding nerds start up labs then post fake pics or make claims of being 400lb's with 3% bodyfat.

Shit I remeber when animal was mister know it all and someone found a real pic of him and he was just an ordinary fellow.

 

[dreww]

Ahhhhh this is getting old. I preffer Human grade myself but I have made exception for AX** because I did find it to be clean and potent.

Im sure there are plenty of UG's that do skim off the top.....Hell I knew a guy who ran a UG in which he underdosed it slightly but not enough where one would notice. He would put only prop and enathate on a bottle labled to have 4 esters. He would use tren on masteron bottles and no one ever knew. He ran that op for over 5 years from mexico. He put 30mg in 50mg labled dbol tabs......No one knew. He would make legite stuff and send it off to be tested and people ate it up. Even though he cut corners like that people still made gains off his stuff and loved it.

thats pretty freaking shady, especially since in the days before ORD, powder was dirt cheap and even selling $30 10ml vials they were making huge profits,

 

[Chris250]

The only thing I worry about UG is oral stuff...I mean I think D-bols and A50's are pretty much real...but anavar, or winny tabs could be faked more than other cheaper products..but I dont really know what powder prices are right now...

 

[saudades]

milos sarcev always suggest human gear!

i got abscess from axio gear 2 times!

Well, you must have injected it wrong then. Axio has not had any problems for a while now. You sound very familiar.