here is what I think for gear of products that work best. I will just go with the actully product and not brands. I do have brands I believe that are top of the line, and then some that are just ok, and cause swelling or problems, ect. But that is just a different article in general.
ok here they are -
test (long acting) - cyp, enth, sust, omad, ect. I think all these work very well, ofcourse the rule of more test is better is for the most part correct. There is a point ofcourse that more will cause more side effects. But that is different for everyone. Also, overtime the side's become less and less after you get use to the higher dose... first time users can get away with 200-300mg per week and grow well. Overtime you will have to use more, and again this is different for everyone. Some will be at 500-750mg per week, other's up to 1250-1500mg per week. Some even more. I do believe even after using for a long time, you should take breaks or HRT doses for peroids of time (say 6-8 weeks) this will help in the long run to make more growth in the long run.
test (short acting) - prop, susp, tne, ect. These are simular to long acting just you have to pin more often. But the gains come on fast and furious, and strengh comes on crazy fast. Personally, I like shorting acting, as sides are less, and even when using less of a dose, the gains are unreal. (for me, and for the people I have worked with) I think for newbie's 300mg per week (or 100mg every other day) is plenty. For vets using around 150-300mg EOD or 3 x a week is plenty. But, I have seen doses of 200mg ED, or 1400-2100mg per week. Now ofcourse when using that much sides will be much stronger. But you will be crazy strong, and huge. Again I dont suggest that much. So be warned...
tren ace (or fast acting tren) - One of the top growth and hardness drugs there is. I think guys make dramatic differences of looks on this drug than almost anything else out there. If you can get the real deal, look out. Growth and hardness are just around the corner, and the effects come on very fast. Within the first week, you notice crazy pumps. the second week you will start to get that hard, grainy look (better as your leaner ofcourse) As you get leaner, the look will be even more dramatic. Even in the offseason you will have a hard look in the delts, arms and chest area. Legs will be vascular to, as long as bodyfat is around 10% or less. Great all around drug for all phases of the year.
tren hex or ethn. (long acting) - this is a very powerful drug, but very harsh on the body. I wont say to much about it, as I dont have alot of experiance with it. Im not a fan of it. But I do know guys that use it and love it. As they grow and get lean off of it. If you do decide to use this just safe, and use with caution. Start low on the dose and work up as you get use to the effects.
deca - good around drug for offseason and even the start of prep. I notice that my joints do feel better on it, and I can push more weight cause i have a good feel to my joints. Strengh is very good on this with test, and a good oral. I've never really notice horriable sides, beside some water retention. But overall its a good drug for the offseason to make some solid gains in mass. The old standby cycle in the 80-90's was test, deca and d bol. If you can make gains off of that cycle, then take up some bowling or golf...lol
eq - again a good all around drug, for offseason and even prep. I will even run this a tad longer into my prep than deca as I dont seem to retain as much water on this. Plus, I can keep better overall pumps on this as my carbs get lower. It doesnt seem to keep you as strong as deca (atleast to me) but I stay vascular on this, even in the offseaon and it has some cool visual effects. As you stay pretty vascular even in the offseason if you below 10-11% bodyfat.
d -bol - here is a drug that I dont think is as good as it was in the 90's. for some reason, it just doesnt seem to work as well now as it use to. I dont know if its me, or just the basic materials to make the drug now. I use to get some killer gains and pumps off this drug. I would notice these effects within a week or so. Now its seems to take weeks to get anything out of d-bol. There are some good brands out there, but they seems to be hard to find. If you can get your hands on good d bol, you should gain 10lbs within a couple weeks, your pumps should come almost from the first workout, and you should gain some water weight within a week. Ofcourse everyone is different, but that was how it was back in the early 90's when pink thia's where everywhere.
anadrol - again the same thing as d bol. Its for some reason not the same as it use to be. Again it could be me, but I have friends that love A50's and they say the same thing. Now, my one buddy, who has been in the game forever. Found some Anadrol that was very legit. He got instant pump's and fullness within a week. Strengh was up, and this was on only 50mg per day. So that was some legit A50's. But again they are hard to come by. Back in the day, you would get pump's so insane, and strengh gains with in a week or so. You would look fuller and just different within a week or two. the gains would just keep on coming each week. It was a great time.
HGH and humalog or humalin R - I personally think to get the most out of these two peptides, you need to stack them together with anabolics. I think if you just go with hgh you will stay lean, but not get as much mass gains. If you go just with insulin (humalog or humalin R) you will get bigger and fuller, and gain lean mass. But you could get fat if you dont watch your diet real close. But, doing both together you will get HUGE, and gain lean mass and stay pretty lean in the long run. Now, the better you eat, the leaner you stay. But, hell if you eat some junk you will just prob grow that much faster, and put on some fat gain. But, you will stay leaner than just using insulin alone. There is tons of way's to put this in a cycle. I personally like to keep things pretty simple. Again this would be a different article all together. But, I promise you if you do test, tren, hgh and slin you will get freaky huge, and stay pretty lean. On the right diet, and training program.
Now on to the bad news, insulin isnt for newbie's and even hgh isnt for newbie's (IMO). If you dont have a few years of training and anabolic use, then just stay away from this until you gain as much mass you can on anabolic's by themself. Personally, if you dont compete in BB or are in a competive sport (professional or collage) then I wouldnt even worry about hgh and slin. Slin can be very dangerous if you dont know how to eat correctly. HGH can be a waste of money if you dont know how to eat and train correclty. HGH is pretty expensive peptide if your just a rec. lifter. So if your not into competing or a competive sport, I would just focus on using anabolics and not worry to much about these two compounds.
IGF - Here is a compound or peptide you can gain some good mass on, plus stay pretty lean. there are tons of articles on MC about IGF, so if your interested in this peptide. Then just check them out in the other threads. But, from my experiance. You get killer pumps, and you overall just feel better in general on IGF and HGH. I have also, notice that IGF seems to help heal joints and my recovery is much better on it. Doses again will vary from person to person. But a newbie can start out at 20-30mcg's per day and get great results out of them. Older vets will use higher doses depending on how much they use over the years. Some people think that IGF only works good for about 2-3 weeks. I personally dont agree with that thought. As I think using it over a period of 6-8 weeks will get much better results. now you might have to up the dose over the weeks, but you can and will get better results by using it longer than 2-3 weeks.
ok for next time, I will go over some stuff for prep...again these are just opinions so if you dont agree that is fine. Everyone reacts different to each drug, so you might have a totally different response to these drugs...if you do please put your input down so we can learn...
ok here they are -
test (long acting) - cyp, enth, sust, omad, ect. I think all these work very well, ofcourse the rule of more test is better is for the most part correct. There is a point ofcourse that more will cause more side effects. But that is different for everyone. Also, overtime the side's become less and less after you get use to the higher dose... first time users can get away with 200-300mg per week and grow well. Overtime you will have to use more, and again this is different for everyone. Some will be at 500-750mg per week, other's up to 1250-1500mg per week. Some even more. I do believe even after using for a long time, you should take breaks or HRT doses for peroids of time (say 6-8 weeks) this will help in the long run to make more growth in the long run.
test (short acting) - prop, susp, tne, ect. These are simular to long acting just you have to pin more often. But the gains come on fast and furious, and strengh comes on crazy fast. Personally, I like shorting acting, as sides are less, and even when using less of a dose, the gains are unreal. (for me, and for the people I have worked with) I think for newbie's 300mg per week (or 100mg every other day) is plenty. For vets using around 150-300mg EOD or 3 x a week is plenty. But, I have seen doses of 200mg ED, or 1400-2100mg per week. Now ofcourse when using that much sides will be much stronger. But you will be crazy strong, and huge. Again I dont suggest that much. So be warned...
tren ace (or fast acting tren) - One of the top growth and hardness drugs there is. I think guys make dramatic differences of looks on this drug than almost anything else out there. If you can get the real deal, look out. Growth and hardness are just around the corner, and the effects come on very fast. Within the first week, you notice crazy pumps. the second week you will start to get that hard, grainy look (better as your leaner ofcourse) As you get leaner, the look will be even more dramatic. Even in the offseason you will have a hard look in the delts, arms and chest area. Legs will be vascular to, as long as bodyfat is around 10% or less. Great all around drug for all phases of the year.
tren hex or ethn. (long acting) - this is a very powerful drug, but very harsh on the body. I wont say to much about it, as I dont have alot of experiance with it. Im not a fan of it. But I do know guys that use it and love it. As they grow and get lean off of it. If you do decide to use this just safe, and use with caution. Start low on the dose and work up as you get use to the effects.
deca - good around drug for offseason and even the start of prep. I notice that my joints do feel better on it, and I can push more weight cause i have a good feel to my joints. Strengh is very good on this with test, and a good oral. I've never really notice horriable sides, beside some water retention. But overall its a good drug for the offseason to make some solid gains in mass. The old standby cycle in the 80-90's was test, deca and d bol. If you can make gains off of that cycle, then take up some bowling or golf...lol
eq - again a good all around drug, for offseason and even prep. I will even run this a tad longer into my prep than deca as I dont seem to retain as much water on this. Plus, I can keep better overall pumps on this as my carbs get lower. It doesnt seem to keep you as strong as deca (atleast to me) but I stay vascular on this, even in the offseaon and it has some cool visual effects. As you stay pretty vascular even in the offseason if you below 10-11% bodyfat.
d -bol - here is a drug that I dont think is as good as it was in the 90's. for some reason, it just doesnt seem to work as well now as it use to. I dont know if its me, or just the basic materials to make the drug now. I use to get some killer gains and pumps off this drug. I would notice these effects within a week or so. Now its seems to take weeks to get anything out of d-bol. There are some good brands out there, but they seems to be hard to find. If you can get your hands on good d bol, you should gain 10lbs within a couple weeks, your pumps should come almost from the first workout, and you should gain some water weight within a week. Ofcourse everyone is different, but that was how it was back in the early 90's when pink thia's where everywhere.
anadrol - again the same thing as d bol. Its for some reason not the same as it use to be. Again it could be me, but I have friends that love A50's and they say the same thing. Now, my one buddy, who has been in the game forever. Found some Anadrol that was very legit. He got instant pump's and fullness within a week. Strengh was up, and this was on only 50mg per day. So that was some legit A50's. But again they are hard to come by. Back in the day, you would get pump's so insane, and strengh gains with in a week or so. You would look fuller and just different within a week or two. the gains would just keep on coming each week. It was a great time.
HGH and humalog or humalin R - I personally think to get the most out of these two peptides, you need to stack them together with anabolics. I think if you just go with hgh you will stay lean, but not get as much mass gains. If you go just with insulin (humalog or humalin R) you will get bigger and fuller, and gain lean mass. But you could get fat if you dont watch your diet real close. But, doing both together you will get HUGE, and gain lean mass and stay pretty lean in the long run. Now, the better you eat, the leaner you stay. But, hell if you eat some junk you will just prob grow that much faster, and put on some fat gain. But, you will stay leaner than just using insulin alone. There is tons of way's to put this in a cycle. I personally like to keep things pretty simple. Again this would be a different article all together. But, I promise you if you do test, tren, hgh and slin you will get freaky huge, and stay pretty lean. On the right diet, and training program.
Now on to the bad news, insulin isnt for newbie's and even hgh isnt for newbie's (IMO). If you dont have a few years of training and anabolic use, then just stay away from this until you gain as much mass you can on anabolic's by themself. Personally, if you dont compete in BB or are in a competive sport (professional or collage) then I wouldnt even worry about hgh and slin. Slin can be very dangerous if you dont know how to eat correctly. HGH can be a waste of money if you dont know how to eat and train correclty. HGH is pretty expensive peptide if your just a rec. lifter. So if your not into competing or a competive sport, I would just focus on using anabolics and not worry to much about these two compounds.
IGF - Here is a compound or peptide you can gain some good mass on, plus stay pretty lean. there are tons of articles on MC about IGF, so if your interested in this peptide. Then just check them out in the other threads. But, from my experiance. You get killer pumps, and you overall just feel better in general on IGF and HGH. I have also, notice that IGF seems to help heal joints and my recovery is much better on it. Doses again will vary from person to person. But a newbie can start out at 20-30mcg's per day and get great results out of them. Older vets will use higher doses depending on how much they use over the years. Some people think that IGF only works good for about 2-3 weeks. I personally dont agree with that thought. As I think using it over a period of 6-8 weeks will get much better results. now you might have to up the dose over the weeks, but you can and will get better results by using it longer than 2-3 weeks.
ok for next time, I will go over some stuff for prep...again these are just opinions so if you dont agree that is fine. Everyone reacts different to each drug, so you might have a totally different response to these drugs...if you do please put your input down so we can learn...
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