Why Ever Come Off Cycle?

[freakinthegym]

hell yeah!

 

[The Deuce]

Yah obviously MICKDOO.. no matter how many years you use AAS at whatever dose you use to get however big you get... when YOU come off entirely.. and stop eating the same way.. and stop your gym activity... YES OF COURSE YOUR BODY RETURNS TO A HOMEOSTASIS POINT and you would look like that.. AAS don't keep you super huge for life.. if that was true.. we'd all do one or two cycles and QUIT because we would stay that size.

 

[The Dude]

I have to agree with The Duece on this of course. I simply have a B.S. in Biochem and a minor in toxicology. Dr's and even Endocrinologist's are not educated in the physiology of these circumstances as we are. They work on the basis of maintaining HOMEOSTASIS. Your best bet is to look at the AIDS guys....
Yes you can do damage with enough of anything even drinking too much water.... there was a death related to that more recently than steroids. How many AIDS related deaths have been delayed for the forseeable future???
Idiots will kill themselves with anything most of us who do big doses take precautions and know the risks. I get monthly checkups. I'm near 3g a week. A little dyazide and my BP is back to 122/72. Face it. We are the experts.

 

[irish2003]

OK well i'm finding out as of friday that i'm a pussy with this test suspension....100mg ed but i only have 22g 1.5 pins....both glutes, quads, and delts are killing me and my body and joints ache like i've got the flu......only 3.5 more weeks of this then i'm backing for 3-4 weeks off to just .75ml sustaplex and maybe 10-20mg methanoplex before i ramped it up again

 

[Juced_porkchop]

OK well i'm finding out as of friday that i'm a pussy with this test suspension....100mg ed but i only have 22g 1.5 pins....both glutes, quads, and delts are killing me and my body and joints ache like i've got the flu......only 3.5 more weeks of this then i'm backing for 3-4 weeks off to just .75ml sustaplex and maybe 10-20mg methanoplex before i ramped it up again

hahaha
your scaring me i have a vile of testS from axio and iv been thinking if i should use it. i here good then i here bad . shoulda stuck with prop lol meh o wel w/e
sustaplex is where its at!

 

[The Deuce]

Gotta agree there.. CAN'T LIVE CORRECTLY WITHOUT MY SUSTAPLEX !!!

 

[NAIR]

I have to agree with The Duece on this of course. I simply have a B.S. in Biochem and a minor in toxicology.QUOTE]

Not quite true my friend. MOST MD canidates enter into med school with BSs in bio/molecular checmistry. Again, I think we're not giving the specialists the credit they deserve. Sure, your standard GP doesn't know a whole lot when it comes to these things, they work work idiots who need warts remvoed and bp meds to keep control the sides related to their obesity.

 

[NAIR]

No Hard feelings Nair.. You know I love ya and respect your opinion and such.. and it was 100% MY fault for not being straight forward with my answers... and yes hahaha.. in the end it did tend to sway towards the Socratic techniques.. haha..

Like I said bro.. I am 28 years old. I don't have all the answers in the world. But to me.. knowledge is Power and.. hopefully in 5-10 years I am one powerful man.. Figuratively and Technically.

Hey, look what Arnold did. He busted his ass. Became supremely famous and YOU SAY HIS NAME.. Everyone knows who he is. Now that.. Is Power.. Beyond that of the President.. IMO





I like you Nair I do. It feels good to have some intellectual conversations once in while... when I am ready for another one. Can I call on you??

Thank God I'm on your good side. I really don't want to cross a guy with a gun like the one you're flashing in that avatar. From now on, its "yes sir mr. Duece."

And yes, lol, anytime hit me up!

 

[dorian123]

Gotta agree there.. CAN'T LIVE CORRECTLY WITHOUT MY SUSTAPLEX !!!

fuck yeah, sustaplex kicks ass-love it

 

[The Dude]

I have to agree with The Duece on this of course. I simply have a B.S. in Biochem and a minor in toxicology.QUOTE]

Not quite true my friend. MOST MD canidates enter into med school with BSs in bio/molecular checmistry. Again, I think we're not giving the specialists the credit they deserve. Sure, your standard GP doesn't know a whole lot when it comes to these things, they work work idiots who need warts remvoed and bp meds to keep control the sides related to their obesity.

Not quite what I meant. Yes it is great to know how to balance a chemical equation, know drug interactions and know that steroids are synthetic derivitives of testosterone, BUT 99.9% don't even know that different steroids are approved for different uses. Call some Endo's on your insurance plan and ask them what anabolic steroid is approved for the treatment of Edema. Now ask an Endo what steroids are going to help you gain the most muscle with as few sides as possible. Ask for a stack or even if they know what steroids are syngergistic. BTW stanazolol is approved in this country for the treatment of Edema. Doctors don't know what we do, how we do it, or what we use. Look at how many prescribed Phen Fen, Vioxx, the list goes on. We are the test group that will never be published, b/c the govt doesn't see enough value and enjoy going after steroids more than crack. We don't shoot at them.
I only come off when I get sick of the shots, but I'm also on HRT, but a much higher dose.

 

[irish2003]

Not quite what I meant. Yes it is great to know how to balance a chemical equation, know drug interactions and know that steroids are synthetic derivitives of testosterone, BUT 99.9% don't even know that different steroids are approved for different uses. Call some Endo's on your insurance plan and ask them what anabolic steroid is approved for the treatment of Edema. Now ask an Endo what steroids are going to help you gain the most muscle with as few sides as possible. Ask for a stack or even if they know what steroids are syngergistic. BTW stanazolol is approved in this country for the treatment of Edema. Doctors don't know what we do, how we do it, or what we use. Look at how many prescribed Phen Fen, Vioxx, the list goes on. We are the test group that will never be published, b/c the govt doesn't see enough value and enjoy going after steroids more than crack. We don't shoot at them.
I only come off when I get sick of the shots, but I'm also on HRT, but a much higher dose.

that's why the boards are the experts......you just have to be patient enough to weed out the bullshit and know who and what to listen to......great points

 

[mickdoo]

What I have seen though is people will lose the drive to train when they are not cycling. The cycle stops then they simply don't want to do anything. No cycle, no workout. In essence they quit. I just enjoy it. Obviously more with extra T. However I would still do it regardless. It keeps me focused.

 

[irish2003]

hahaha
your scaring me i have a vile of testS from axio and iv been thinking if i should use it. i here good then i here bad . shoulda stuck with prop lol meh o wel w/e
sustaplex is where its at!

well my body is telling me it doesn't like suspension.....i've had the worst test flu and my night sweats and nightmares are 10x worse than when i was on tren....my whole body is aching like the flu, but i take ibuprofen and about an hour later i go from aching and freezing my ass off to my body feeling good but sweating like a pig....on a positive though it's some strong f'n shit....i lifted like a madman on mondays workout and am still debating about training the rest of the week....i haven't taken a shot today and will wait a couple days to let my inj sites heal a little and will use prop instead with a tab or two of dbol for the next 3-4 weeks before I jump on my next big adventure

 

[Get_Swole]

well my body is telling me it doesn't like suspension.....i've had the worst test flu and my night sweats and nightmares are 10x worse than when i was on tren....my whole body is aching like the flu, but i take ibuprofen and about an hour later i go from aching and freezing my ass off to my body feeling good but sweating like a pig....on a positive though it's some strong f'n shit....i lifted like a madman on mondays workout and am still debating about training the rest of the week....i haven't taken a shot today and will wait a couple days to let my inj sites heal a little and will use prop instead with a tab or two of dbol for the next 3-4 weeks before I jump on my next big adventure

fuck me that shit sounds like a nightmare in its self. I was debating on fuckin around with it next cycle but fuck that id rather stick to my regulars lol.

 

[irish2003]

fuck me that shit sounds like a nightmare in its self. I was debating on fuckin around with it next cycle but fuck that id rather stick to my regulars lol.

I think I would have been OK had I been running some other test with it and that the suspension I would have kept at 50mg a day instead of 100mg/day....i think it's great as an add-on, but at this point I had finished my sustaplex and prop, stopped the anadrol, and was kinda tapering down......i just didn't see the point in sticking myself twice a day for just a quarter of a cc, so i did a half a cc two times a day instead.....lesson learned though......also i could have cut the suspension like was recommended by several, but i'm hard headed......