Winstrol and Tommy John Surgery

[jtunderdog]

Tell me if this isn't about the stupidest thing you ever heard. My sister's boyfriend pitches for a Div II college. He has a gut at 25 and told me he wants to run a cycle of winny. I told him that was stupid. He doesn't work out and obviously has no idea what he is doing. I was also thinking that winny dries out the joints. Is that correct? It doesn't seem like a good idea for him to run it pitching because of the intense strain on his elbow and shoulder, but he has also had tommy john surgery. I thought this was probably one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard. He seems to have the mentality, take steroid, look better.

 

[MMX2]

All true.. So misinformed.

 

[mikeswift]

have you tried educating him at all about it? sounds like he's a typical "body in a bottle" believer

 

[jtunderdog]

He is. I told him that with winstrol in oral form it had liver toxicity. He was planning on taking it for "a couple months." I told him that I felt it would be dangerous for him as well. He and I actually get along really well, but he had his mind set on doing this. He just really wanted to take it to lose weight, and I told him that was a very bad decision. He drinks constantly as well. This guy spent around the same amount of money my family spent on vacation in a week on alcohol. I really am concerned that all this alcohol and orals for such a long period is really going to cause him some problems.

 

[mikeswift]

have you presented him with other options? Even if he wants to just take an oral he could go with oral Var or Primo and get better results for pitching than from Winny... Personally I would get him on IGF, perfect thing for an athlete.

 

[saudades]

He is. I told him that with winstrol in oral form it had liver toxicity. He was planning on taking it for "a couple months." I told him that I felt it would be dangerous for him as well. He and I actually get along really well, but he had his mind set on doing this. He just really wanted to take it to lose weight, and I told him that was a very bad decision. He drinks constantly as well. This guy spent around the same amount of money my family spent on vacation in a week on alcohol. I really am concerned that all this alcohol and orals for such a long period is really going to cause him some problems.

Winny is liver toxic no matter how you take it, injected or oral, because of it's chemical structure. He'd have serious problems for sure given the drying effect it has on the joints. The bros here have some excellent advice.

 

[jtunderdog]

I usually play golf with him every other week or so, but haven't seen him in a little while. I am going to call him this week and talk to him about this. I am just worried he may really screw himself up. He doesn't even train. Its sad to see someone with so much potential waste it as well. I will let him know about the better options if he is hell bent on taking something.

 

[jtunderdog]

After another phone call yesterday, I am pretty sure he won't be taking winstrol. I told him that it was toxic to the liver again and stressed we would have to quit drinking. That with the implication that it could destroy his elbow and I think it worked.

 

[mcgaret]

Get him a vile of plan oil or steral water and tell him it is the 'stuff'. I would be intrested to see if it has a placibo effect.
The guys who think that thats all it will take or who think that if they start 'juicing'
THEN they will want to work out - are a danger to themselves.(i didnt want
to say their stupid - it sounds like you like you bro-in-law)

 

[klowndog]

Lol

Get him a vile of plan oil or steral water and tell him it is the 'stuff'. I would be intrested to see if it has a placibo effect.
The guys who think that thats all it will take or who think that if they start 'juicing'
THEN they will want to work out - are a danger to themselves.(i didnt want
to say their stupid - it sounds like you like you bro-in-law)

Good experiment.

leased:

 

[NAIR]

Tell me if this isn't about the stupidest thing you ever heard.

Actually, I've heard worst but this takes the cake today. Tell the guy to get his fat ass on a treadmill 6 days a week @45 minutes to an hour. Problem solved.

 

[jtunderdog]

To get on a treadmill you have to put down the beer. I do like the guy, I would even say he is a good friend, but he is very self destructive. It is always irritating to me that people think big guys just do roids, or even fit guys. I mean, I know some do, but that is not the way you get big. They don't realize the rest of the story as Paul Harvey use to say.