Your experience with hydrolyzed whey protein

[BigZ]

Hydrolyzed whey has become more readily available, and it's touted as being far more digestible than even regular whey isolate. Has anyone else tried it and what do you think? I tend to not digest whey very well, so I'm hoping this works better for me.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Hydrolyzed whey has become more readily available, and it's touted as being far more digestible than even regular whey isolate. Has anyone else tried it and what do you think? I tend to not digest whey very well, so I'm hoping this works better for me.

I used it saw no difference.
What I have noticed and tried for more protein synthesis for guys over 40
Taking L-leucine 1500-3000 between meals helps!
They are cheap and work well.

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[Big Beef]

I agree. I've used it & if it's better, it's by such a small amount that it's not even noticeable. I don't know how much of a difference it will make with your digestion issue

 

[Masher59]

I've used it and no noticeable difference.

 

[yellow snow]

I've used it and no noticeable difference.

I am with this group of guys. It normally tastes bitter and the lower the hydrolyzation number 1300 vs 520, etc... The more bitter it becomes.

That being said the best protien out there period is a hydrolyzed casien ( peptopro). I only use it around my peri workout nutrution window, but it is unlike other hydrolyzed whey.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I am with this group of guys. It normally tastes bitter and the lower the hydrolyzation number 1300 vs 520, etc... The more bitter it becomes.

That being said the best protien out there period is a hydrolyzed casien ( peptopro). I only use it around my peri workout nutrution window, but it is unlike other hydrolyzed whey.

So that's what the sour taste is.
I had swore someone put something in my protein tub. Like my kids or wife to laugh at me being ugly. Lol!
I asked them what they done to it!
Lol

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[amaru]

I am with this group of guys. It normally tastes bitter and the lower the hydrolyzation number 1300 vs 520, etc... The more bitter it becomes.

That being said the best protien out there period is a hydrolyzed casien ( peptopro). I only use it around my peri workout nutrution window, but it is unlike other hydrolyzed whey.

How much better than micellar casein and how so?

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[yellow snow]

How much better than micellar casein and how so?

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Even though they both have casein in the name milcellar casien and hydrolyzed casien are completly different animal one is slow absorbing ( classic milk protien) the other is the fastest digesting protien in the market. here is a cut and paste to explain the peptopro product:

"To make protein clearly water soluble, it has to be hydrolysed. The resulting peptides are, however, often extremely bitter. Also, solutions of amino acids are no option because they are very reactive and unstable in solution and in addition are forbidden in the EU.
Natural food protein is too big to be absorbed by the human gut. Our body has to digest the protein by breaking it down into smaller pieces which can be absorbed. Only single amino acids, and di- and tri-peptides can be directly absorbed in our intestinal tract via specific peptide importers. PeptoPro® contains 70-80% small di- and tri-peptides which are directly absorbed with digestion.
Di- and tripeptides
With its patented technology PeptoPro® is very rich in small di- and tri-peptides. These score better on all fronts:

• very easily soluble in water
• stable, even in an acidic environment
• hypoallergenic
• permitted in all countries
• fast and total absorption by the body
• stimulates the release of insulin

New class
PeptoPro® ushers in a new drinks category onto the sports drinks and soft drinks market. Normal sports drinks covered only three of the four elements: water for rehydration, glucose and/or electrolytes. PeptoPro® now finally adds protein in dissolvable form. Active peptides, which together with carbohydrates raise the concentration of insulin and supply the building blocks required for muscle recovery. The result: faster muscle refuelling and energy recovery.
Comparison of protein sources
Proteins can be obtained from food such as meat and fish, soya, wheat, peas, potatoes and rice. 80% of the milk protein consists of casein, which settles when the milk is acidified. The remaining liquid contains whey proteins, which are water soluble (but not clear).
Here are the different sources of protein supplements with their advantages and drawbacks:

• Whey protein. Milk proteins like whey or casein sometimes cause cow-milk allergies, and whey protein in higher doses can lead to digestive problems like flatulence and diarrhea. The solution of whey protein in water is not clear unless the big proteins have been strained off or partially hydrolysed. Some people have problems in digesting complete whey protein.
• Intact proteins are not easily digested and are therefore not usable during or before sports activities. Also, they do not increase the insulin level during the recovery phase.
• Amino acids did not obtain GRAS classification (Generally Recognized As Safe) in the US and are not allowed for use in food production in Europe. They are unstable in drinks and react with sugar (so-called Maillard reaction). And finally, they raise the osmolality of the drinks, which leads to poorer sugar, water and mineral absorption.
• Peptides obtained by ‘classic’ hydrolysis are extremely bitter, are absorbed slower, and can cause some allergic reactions and have no or only a low effect on raising the insulin level after exercise
• The di- and tripeptides in PeptoPro® are completely water soluble. They are quickly absorbed by the body and stimulate insulin production. They are hypoallergenic, and were thoroughly tested during the Athens Olympic Games in 2004. "

 

[yellow snow]

Here is the amino acid profile of peptopro.............look at the amount of L luecine ( the one that turns on mTor). Comepare that to any other whey protein out in the market even whey isolate.

Amino Acid Profile Per 100 grams

Alanine
2.3


Arginine
3


Aspartic Acid
5


Cystine
1


Glutamic Acid
17.1


Glycine
1.4


Histidine
2.2


Isoleucine
3.8


Leucine
7.5


Lysine
5.9


Methionine
2.6


Phenylalanine
3.7


Proline
8.5


Serine
4.1


Threonine
2.9


Tryptophan
8


Tyrosine
4.4


Valine
5.1


The above statement has not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose or treat any disease.

 

[chihuahua]

I'm good with just regular concentrate. I was under the impression the only reason one would want to use isolate is because of the low lactose. Am I missing something here?

 

[BigZ]

I've heard Peptopro was good. I was going to buy some a few years ago, but the site that carried it disappeared, and I couldn't find it anywhere else for such a good price.

I'm good with just regular concentrate. I was under the impression the only reason one would want to use isolate is because of the low lactose. Am I missing something here?

In a way, yes. It isn't just because of lactose for me. I just need something that will digest faster/better because my system is very sensitive after having had my gallbladder out a few years ago.

 

[Big Beef]

I'm good with just regular concentrate. I was under the impression the only reason one would want to use isolate is because of the low lactose. Am I missing something here?

Isolate digests faster & hydrolyzed even faster than that. Making it better for utilizing that post workout window. Supposed to be at least, but doesn't seem to make much of a difference. I use a isolate/concentrate blend. Works fine for me

 

[chihuahua]

I've heard Peptopro was good. I was going to buy some a few years ago, but the site that carried it disappeared, and I couldn't find it anywhere else for such a good price.

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In a way, yes. It isn't just because of lactose for me. I just need something that will digest faster/better because my system is very sensitive after having had my gallbladder out a few years ago.

I gotta ask only because a coworker of mine was just informed that her gallbladder needs to come out. Are there certain foods you must avoid after your gallbladder is removed?

 

[yellow snow]

I'm good with just regular concentrate. I was under the impression the only reason one would want to use isolate is because of the low lactose. Am I missing something here?

think of it like gas octane; concentrate is 85, isolate is 90 and Hydrolzed is 92 and peptopro is racing fuel..............They all do the same thing, just depends on what you are trying to gt out of of.

If you have a tendency for the dreaded "protien farts" stay far away from concentrate. I use concentrate all the time as in between meal "snacks". I keep concentrate, isolate, micellar casein (before bed) and peptopro. They all are effective when used at the appropriate time; just depends how anal you want to get.
After working out for over 25 years, if you want to add an additional 2-3 lbs a year based on nutrition ( alone) it makes you get a little anal. if you have been trainig for less than 3 years and still growing............fuck it protien is protien!

 

[amaru]

I quit using whey for the most part several years ago. I think the effects are over exxagerated. I've only used micellar casein for that steady stream of aminos to more mimic real food.

I also did a natty 12 week cut where I didn't use anything. Strength up and lost 20lbs of fat only training 3 days a week with no cardio.

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[BigZ]

I gotta ask only because a coworker of mine was just informed that her gallbladder needs to come out. Are there certain foods you must avoid after your gallbladder is removed?

Usually, anything with a lot of oil or grease will give you trouble if you have your gallbladder out. That's the main thing to watch out for.