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    Default Testosterone Enanthate or Testosterone Cypionate. Beginner Steroid Cycle



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    Week 1-12 Testosterone-Enanthate or Testosterone-Cypionate: 250mg-500mg per week
    Week 13-15 you will take nothing and let the testosterone begin to clear out
    Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
    Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day
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    Additional items that can be added if you so desire...

    Dianabol Addition:
    Week 1-6 Dianabol 20mg-30mg every day
    Week 1-12 Testosterone-Enanthate or Testosterone-Cypionate: 250mg-500mg per week
    Week 13-15 you will take nothing and let the testosterone begin to clear out
    Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
    Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day

    Winstrol Addition:
    Week 1-12 Testosterone-Enanthate or Testosterone-Cypionate: 250mg-500mg per week
    Week 7-12 Winstrol 50mg every other day
    Week 13-15 you will take nothing and let the testosterone begin to clear out
    Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
    Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day
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    simple but effective cycles.

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    Great post!! Wished I would've read this early on!!!
     

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    You and me both bro, I think a lot of people could use this

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    this is exactly how every beginner should start in my opinion. these new guys running tren and mast are crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by big n wv View Post
    You and me both bro, I think a lot of people could use this
    Trial and error lol
     

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    can we take hcg or clomid insted of nolvadex...and if yes what dosages
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mag0117 View Post
    can we take hcg or clomid insted of nolvadex...and if yes what dosages
    Theyre totally different things bro so it all depends what your trying to accomplish ?????
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    That was pretty much like my first cycle, and it is very effective.
     

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    Def a great beginner cycle for those just jumping in
     

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    one question i have about cycles. if i started on a Monday for week 1, when does week 2 start? the next Monday or Tuesday? this might be a dumb question but i have been wondering this for a while. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by natelowman View Post
    one question i have about cycles. if i started on a Monday for week 1, when does week 2 start? the next Monday or Tuesday? this might be a dumb question but i have been wondering this for a while. Thanks
    The following monday. Welcome!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by natelowman View Post
    one question i have about cycles. if i started on a Monday for week 1, when does week 2 start? the next Monday or Tuesday? this might be a dumb question but i have been wondering this for a while. Thanks
    Yes welcome and don't hesitate to start a NEW THREAD with any questions you might have
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    not sure if you can say this here. but do you recommend steroidforyou.com for legit stuff?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by natelowman View Post
    not sure if you can say this here. but do you recommend steroidforyou.com for legit stuff?
    Sorry Bro, we don't discuss sources or where to obtain any type of drug here, so please don't ask. We do however have a great discussion forum that talks about the history and theory of AAS, so feel free to ask any other questions, and welcome to MC.
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    Is there anywhere in the forum I can ask questions like that?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by natelowman View Post
    Is there anywhere in the forum I can ask questions like that?
    Nope
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    Is it ok to continue to use an over the counter product like '' Hot Stuff anabolic activator '' while going through this test cycle?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadmoney2263 View Post
    Is it ok to continue to use an over the counter product like '' Hot Stuff anabolic activator '' while going through this test cycle?
    im not sure what Anabolic Activator is but you can take anything you want with a testosterone cycle,
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    Thanks Presser.
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    no problem bro and welcome to MC, as I see your new here!!!
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    Thanks again Presser. I've been all over the Internet looking for good information and from people who seemed like they knew what they were talking about and this site is by far the best. I'm 51yo,5'10'', 215/220, two yrs ago I was 265/270, I started out just walking for 30-40mins, then walking and jogging, bought some dumbbells and a bench, then a Latbar Station and then a home gym. My goal is still 190/195 while still adding mass and toning up more but I knew I needed some help and wanted to try a test cycle but again, completely lost there. Great information on this site and thanks for your form on HRT. Great read. Hopefully I can get started on my first 10 wk cycle by the end of January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyWrench View Post
    Sorry Bro, we don't discuss sources or where to obtain any type of drug here, so please don't ask. We do however have a great discussion forum that talks about the history and theory of AAS, so feel free to ask any other questions, and welcome to MC.
    Agreed here bro. Take some time read as much as you can. Answers you seek, you may eventually find on your own. It take a little time and research on your part. I did take a look at the site you mentioned. I saw this listed as a beginner cycle:
    Beginner Cycyle: 147 tabs Dianabol (150 tabs) : 28 tabs Tamoxifen (30 tabs) : 14 tabs Clomid (20 tabs)

    My opinion is if this is the advise they are giving their clients, I wouldn't recommend them. Oral only cycles are a no no. Beginners should be Test only. If gonna use an oral, should be with a Test base.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rama1214 View Post
    Agreed here bro. Take some time read as much as you can. Answers you seek, you may eventually find on your own. It take a little time and research on your part. I did take a look at the site you mentioned. I saw this listed as a beginner cycle:
    Beginner Cycyle: 147 tabs Dianabol (150 tabs) : 28 tabs Tamoxifen (30 tabs) : 14 tabs Clomid (20 tabs)

    My opinion is if this is the advise they are giving their clients, I wouldn't recommend them. Oral only cycles are a no no. Beginners should be Test only. If gonna use an oral, should be with a Test base.
    actually no, you shouldn't do a test only cycle because it reduces the collagen in the joints and opens you up for injury

    better to mix it with something like EQ or DECA
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    i think a testosterone only cycle is great! Ive run soley testosterone for years on end and love it and actually think its safer then stacking all kinds of other things int he mix when your a beginner, but thats just my opinion and personal observation, not the Gospel, lol.
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    Ya know to address the orginal question, I never really found a huge difference between any of the Testosterons, adding Prop. in there as well, furthermore I didnt have anymore water retention w/Cyp or Enanthate that I had w/Prop. I always that this was somewhat a myth likely bacause when bulking, you always used Cyp or Enth. and you werent real picky about what you ate, but the Prop you may be pre-contest mode and more picky, but in reality it was your diet that dictated water retention not the ester. I actaully knew at least one pretty successfull BB who took Enth right up before his high level contest
     

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    Lottery2 My Cycle, Please assist

    Hey guys im running 2 cc's per week of cyp, the dosage is 250mg per ml, so all in all 500mg's of cyp a week.
    I basically am almost finished my cyp cycle "i have 1ml left"
    I just moved onto stacking a nandrolone deca. 1 cc per week, dosage is 300mg per ml.
    I am a beginner but am sticking to the dosages correctly.
    I have only taken 1cc shot so far of the deca.
    Am i over doing it or can i sustain a decent cycle this way?
     

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    Start a new thread bro this is an old thread. People might not look at it as its so oldest
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    good looking out spuds
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    Sample Cycles and stacks for Beginners . Long ester testosterone a better choice for first time cycle
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    August 6, 2018 IronDBodybuilding Forumsbeginners steroid cycle, Beginners testosterone only cycle, dbol test cycle stack, dianabol beginners cycle, test only cycle
    If your reading this then your likely someone who has been contemplating the use of anabolic steroids for some time now. Congratulations your in the right place!

    Its always best to begin with a simple long ester testosterone like cypionate or enanthate and add in an oral steroid like dianabol and your on your way to massive strength gains as well as muscle mass gains!.
    The reason we use a once a week injection protocol with cypionate is due to the fact that it is much easier to control. Knowing your only on testosterone makes life easy when negative side effects occur! Now this cycle here we have added in 20mg dianabol per week, which shouldnt be a problem for newbies however this oral steroid does still aromatise. Although unlikely at this dosage so risks in terms of acne, hair loss, mood swings and even gynecomastia are quite low.

    Beginners should never go beyond 500mg per week of any type of testosterone, regardless of the ester being short or long half-life

    It is always advisable to run HCG through your entire cycle! This was not realized by many bodybuilders of recent years. Unfortunately the chances of your endogenous (natural) testosterone ever coming back to full are unlikely, and this is even with the use of HCG run throughout the entire cycle. You do however have a much greater chance of getting as close as possible to restoring your pre-steroid endocrine system when using HCG, not to mention much more likely to keep your gains. This makes for an easier post cycle therapy!
    Best Beginners BULK CYCLE STACK:

    Testosterone Cypionate @ 400mg to no more than 500mg per week alongside dianabol at 20mg to 25mg daily for the first few weeks, at which point your testosterone should have kicked in.
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    Post CYCLE STACK:

    Make sure before you begin your cycle that you have all of your post meds in hand! You dont want to get caught with your pants down, or titties flapping i guess would be a better way of putting it! Nolvadex and clomid are always the way to go. Nolvadex you can run at 10mg the last few weeks of your cycle and 3 weeks past cycle, while the clomid you wont start until the cypionate ester has cleared your system. Generally this is two weeks after your last injection. Clomid is run at 50mg daily for 10 days.
    Steroid cycle expectations:

    Its obviously hard to be exact, however there is no reason you should havent put on a ton of mass in 12 weeks time! My first cycle ever was only testosterone enanthate which is quite similar to cyp, and I gained over 60 pounds however this was in 16 weeks not 12. I also started out lean and skinny with muscle definition everywhere. I would never advise anyone use steroids who hasnt hit that proverbial wall in training and genetics! It is only then when i personally decided to take the plunge (PUN INTENDED)
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    Beginners and especially first time users of cypionate or testosterone enanthate needn’t use a dosage above 250 mg per week
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    I'm running prop for the first time and the water retention is way lower than with C or E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacktail View Post
    I'm running prop for the first time and the water retention is way lower than with C or E.
    I don't care what people say, but there is a difference between prop and cyp. Don't get me wrong I love my trt cyp, but when I'm on prop I actually feel like I'm "on". Love it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by chihuahua View Post
    I don't care what people say, but there is a difference between prop and cyp. Don't get me wrong I love my trt cyp, but when I'm on prop I actually feel like I'm "on". Love it..
    I agree, i like propionate much better, always have, but didnt realize people were saying there isnt much of a difference? I know they say testosterone is testosterone, but no doubt propionate makes me feel better, i think the shorter ester enables better hormone levels stability, where as enanthate and cypionate seem to wain or wayne or however its spelled lol,
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