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    Ok Guru's. My rbc are too high, prob from the trt, just got test results, 19.4 . My Dr. said I have to get to 17.5. He controls my trt so I want him to be happy, and I get 200 mg a week. Now the question, I will be taking tren soon, other than donating blood and drinking lot's of water, is there anything else I can do to keep this down somewhat. I do have GW to help with the other stuff while on the tren. Thanks Presser) Thank you all for any help. Happy New Year.
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    There’s a big thread on this exact topic here somewhere lol , personally I do not know much about it and only remedy I know is the donating blood.
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    Thank you Sir. I'll keep looking.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpile View Post
    Thank you Sir. I'll keep looking.
    Presser bumped them all and I added what I do.
    U need Dr to diagnose u with secondary polycythemia and get order as needed.
    Its, allowed with TRT they spin blood remove areas and use rest... they love it and it's FDA guidelines on donations more from TRT patients.
    My Dr does it for me. TRT clinic here told me he does same and could for me if I switched to him.
    Your Dr not up to date brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Presser bumped them all and I added what I do.
    U need Dr to diagnose u with secondary polycythemia and get order as needed.
    Its, allowed with TRT they spin blood remove areas and use rest... they love it and it's FDA guidelines on donations more from TRT patients.
    My Dr does it for me. TRT clinic here told me he does same and could for me if I switched to him.
    Your Dr not up to date brother

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    What do you mean spin blood, remove area, and use rest?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronJulius View Post
    What do you mean spin blood, remove area, and use rest?
    They remove part of blood Testosteone is attached...
    They toss mine away because I have hep c antibody but been cleared over 9 years ago no active virus. But still will always carry antibody..
    I have all paperwork let me did it up..

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    Here is some paperwork I found will take photo out my file when I go back Monday or Tuesday couldn't make it today. These were photos I took and found In my photos on phone.
    But this is what is needed...
    Info on spinning I can get but not important they ask last time dosing and your dose to know how to spin but my blood don't qualify

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Here is some paperwork I found will take photo out my file when I go back Monday or Tuesday couldn't make it today. These were photos I took and found In my photos on phone.
    But this is what is needed...
    Info on spinning I can get but not important they ask last time dosing and your dose to know how to spin but my blood don't qualify

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    Those are old. I am back as needed on order

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    Been at this a while if u notice. U guys need to get a Dr up to date.
    Been doing this since 2013. Forms all named if u look at ones posted.
    Testosterone and gear if it's real.... cause secondary polycythemia in most who use enough even TRT!!! It's ashamed that Dr's are that out of date with guidelines.

    Give your Dr names of forms and tell him like this. "These are the forms... u put me on this stuff now I need order or a new Dr cause u out of date"
    No where in hormone TRT therapy is it necessary to stop using because of red blood, phlebotomy order part of TRT in those who developed secondary polycythemia.
    I know other vets here at MC that do this too and have their blood spun as they not blocked from donating like myself from antibody I carry...

    It's simple get new Dr or tell yours to get it together!! Unreal!! That is reason I go to internal med Dr that advertises TRT, because he sees reg patient with aging issues that he treats and TRT as well. Dr Quack that decides to treat a patient or 2 with TRT prolly knows nothing about it nor cares to learn!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpile View Post
    Ok Guru's. My rbc are too high, prob from the trt, just got test results, 19.4 . My Dr. said I have to get to 17.5. He controls my trt so I want him to be happy, and I get 200 mg a week. Now the question, I will be taking tren soon, other than donating blood and drinking lot's of water, is there anything else I can do to keep this down somewhat. I do have GW to help with the other stuff while on the tren. Thanks Presser) Thank you all for any help. Happy New Year.
    Cutting your dosage down some will help. Most guys will do very well on 100-120mg wk for TRT. Donating blood is the only way that I know of that's effective.
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    Go to red cross and donate double red and you'll be under 17.5 in no time.
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    I use test prop at 50mg a day on blast with trest ace 12.5-25mg a day and issue is like night and day than with test e or c at 700wk....


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