Injection QUESTION

So i injected my quad today, since my glutes are getting sore, and i hit my pecs saturday and sunday. How deep do you guys stick the 1" needle. I went in 3/4 of the way, if i go deeper i get a sharp pain. My glutes i go 1.5" in. My pecs 1/2 since i really dont have much. So does the juice have to go deep into the muscle

3/4 of the way is fine, but I don't get a sharp pain putting it in all the way, so that is kind of weird. You are injecting in the upper outside portion of the quad right?

There are a couple of points to remember about IM injections. Generally, the deeper, the better (especially with high volumes). There's more bloodflow to muscle tissue than subq tissue. That's the reason why absorption is always faster with IM than subq.

Depositing the liquid deep also helps prevent oil abcesses. While these might not be toxic, they're not helping us maintain even blood levels because subq oil is absorbed more slowly, which delays the de-esterification, binding, etc. Higher volumes of oil will increase the abcess risk because there's only so many cc's the site can handle especially if you're barely getting the pin into the muscle. Also, if the oil is not very thick, it tends to move around a bit once in the tissue.

I once shot some cheap Stens (2cc's) with a 1" pin and felt some of the oil drain out of my lateralis and pool at the top of my patella (there was a visible pool). Gravity works! The oil in Sten is very, very thin. That combined with the 2cc volume and the shallow depth caused the problem. The oil was eventually absorbed after about a week, but the point is the testosterones suspended in the oil were useless until the oil was absorbed.

With my quads, I've been shooting 1cc injects with 1" pins and I always bury them. Anything over 1cc, I always use a 1.5" pin and bury that as well.

If I go too far into the muscle I sometimes get a sharp pain as well. If you don't go deep enough it can cause more pain or make the absorption rate slower.

So go as deep as possible and inject nice and slow to allow the oil to disperse.

goldenear thanks for that post - helped me out alot

Yeah i put my arm at my side, and stick inbetween my index finger and thumb. Last time i went quad i went 2cc, and i had pain for almost a week, but today no pain, just did legs and its not bothering me at all. Guess ill keep 2cc shots to my glutes and 1 ml or smaller to my pecs and quads, and when i get a sac bis.

I've put 2 1/2 in my quads and never had a prob. I bet you could go 3cc. I like the quads, not nearly as akward as reaching around to hit the glutes.

Sounds like your doing everything correct, maybe you just hit a nerve or something when you tried to go deeper.

Badgermoon said:

I bet you could go 3cc.

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I believe the U.S. medical profession sticks to 3cc's as the max for lateralis & hip injects. I think 5cc's is the recommended max for glute injects.

My point was that if you're gonna pump that much oil into the muscle, you better make sure you use a long enough pin to keep all of it in the muscle.

so my ? is i never have oil come out of the skin, but what if it stays in fat?

I guess it will be absorbed, but at a much slower rate. Like Goldenear stated, you want to put it nice and deep in the muscle tissue. I always bury the 1' pin when shooting the quads, or use a 1 1/2" and go at least 1 1/4 ".

good info >>bump<<

Gold is correct on the max cc's!

Man I give you props for doing chest injs, I just get weak over thinking of them,,,

awwwwwwwww it hurts

I still havnt tried bis yet do those hurt.

I try to get them as close as possible guess thats all i can do. I cant wait till im offf Prop then my shot can go anywhere i want it to

So does anyone have a complete list of how much you can put where? I'm putting 1.6ml of oil plus 1ml of b12 (water based) in right now, ed, and have hit both quads and both pecs so far.

well personally, I've done 3cc's in both quads and glutes with no problems. I use 1" in quads and 1.5" in glutes and go all the way in on both. If I feel a sharp pain that means I've hit a never and pull out and re-inject. I've only gone as high as 2cc's for delts using 1' needle.

I've done 3cc's in quads (1" in, maybe 1 1/4"), 2cc's in delts (using 5/8"), 4cc in glutes (1 1/2" in), now 2.6cc (if you count the b12) in pecs (5'8" in).

damn, Al, I'm still scared to hit off the pecs and calves.....biceps injections hurt a little at first, but I love the engorged look they take on with a little fina running around inside them....lol

ill have to try the bi injections with fina

Ohh yeah EQ+prop painless inj. I think im over the prop pain now. No shot is bothering me, its 11 days into this cycle.

Biceps scare me... for pecs, there was plenty of meat, so it didn't seem to scary, plus everyone posting how much they liked them I did end up getting about a dime size bruise yesterday on my chest, must have gone through a vein on the way in - bled a little when I pulled out. Aspirated cleanly.