What at the end ??

Preppy

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #1

Morning bro's!

Got a question about the next cycle.

It will start off with 3 weeks anadrol 25mg/day, & 10 weeks sust 500mg/week. I know the sust and anadrol will put a good bit of water on me and I want to know what to throw in and when to throw it in to kinda harden me up at the end. Any ideas?

As always thanks!

 

LA

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #2

Winny.

 

Preppy

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #3

That is what I thought too.

But what week would I add it in at? Would Winny at the last 4 be good enough or should I do tha last 6? Or less?

 

LA

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #4

Preppy said:

That is what I thought too.

But what week would I add it in at? Would Winny at the last 4 be good enough or should I do tha last 6? Or less?

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Last 4 should be fine or actually weeks 9-12. Giving the sust will be in your system through week 12. That way you are on orals 7 out of 12 instead of 7 out of 10 weeks. Take some ALA for your liver throughout!

 

Preppy

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #5

Ok so weeks 8-12 ...

And should I use the tabs instead of the inject? I heard the orals are less effective.

 

LA

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #6

Preppy said:

Ok so weeks 8-12 ...

And should I use the tabs instead of the inject? I heard the orals are less effective.

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I doubt that you experience any significant difference between the oral or injectable form of winny.

 

midwtchamp

Banana

• Aug 4, 2003

• #7

winny and fina....

 

Preppy

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #8

Got it.

So here it is then

500 mg sust weeks 1-10
25 mg anadrol weeks 1-3
Winny 50 mg E/O/D weeks 9-12
30 mg Nolvadex ED weeks 1-12 (very prone to gyno)
ALA 1800 mg ED
Milk Thistle
EFA's
Multivitamins

End with Clomid, Tribulus, and starting creatine.

Looks good to me. Anything else I might be missing or any other advise?

 

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LA

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #9

Substitute dex for tribex. Tribex, IMO is worthless and a waste of money for post cycle recovery.

You can also sub dex for nolva. Preventative here. Dex will stop conversion of test to est, while nolva prevents est from binding.

 

Preppy

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #10

2 things.

1. What is Dex. Cause you say sub dex for Tribex and dex for Nolva. Not sure what dex is.

2. Ins't estrogen kind of important to muscle growth too? Wouldn't i just want to stop the binding and leave the estrogen.

Thanks for the help bro

 

LA

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #11

Preppy said:

2 things.

1. What is Dex. Cause you say sub dex for Tribex and dex for Nolva. Not sure what dex is.

2. Ins't estrogen kind of important to muscle growth too? Wouldn't i just want to stop the binding and leave the estrogen.

Thanks for the help bro

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Dex is short for Arimidex. Do a search in the "The Edge" for more research. Arimidex inhibits the enzyme aromatise. This enzyme prevents the conversion from test to est. It's not 100$ inhibited. You are concerned with reducing est. levels well below the point of making gyno an issue- not eliminating it all together.

One of our advertisers carries it for research purposes only.

 

LA

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #12

Oh yeah, at your dose of test and what you said about being gyno sensitive try .5mg/ed. Adjust from there. Have Nolva onhand just-in-case.

 

Preppy

New member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #13

Thanks for the advise bro!

Much appreciated.

I will let you all know how it goes in the journal section with in a month or so!

 

jtunderdog

MuscleChemistry Registered Member

• Aug 4, 2003

• #14

How often do you plan on injecting the sust. The reason I ask is, this was my first cycle and I ran it wrong. I started getting gyno and got some arimidex and it got rid of it. There was a good post on keeping blood levels level on sust. I think you pretty much had to take it everyday. Do a search and check that post out. I just want you to get good gains from the sust and you definitely need to get your blood levels as close to balanced as possible.

 

Preppy

New member

• Aug 5, 2003

• #15

I was going to run it every Tuesday and Friday. Except for the 1st 2 weeks where I hit 3 each week. Seems right. I got 10lbs off a 5 week cycle a couple months ago. However I lost it all with in the next few months due to starting before post cycle was in and I did not get it. Number one mess up! This one should be much more weight and strength gain. And I have post cycle, anti-e's, and some Clen for after the cycle.

Oh Yeah! A little costly but gonna be the best one ever!

 

radical_P

New member

• Aug 5, 2003

• #16

Unless I missed something I would run the winny ed instead of eod. Because of the half life ed will get you muscles nice and hard. Estrogen is important by the way but excessive e is not to good. If you run adex at .25 or even .5 ed you will be ok. I don't like to run it at 1mg ed unless you are taking 1g of test or more per week.