keepable gains

yelis300

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I was curious as to which AS everyone thinks gives the best keepable gains going through a regular cycle and using clomid or nolva for post cycle recovery. I was looking at winny and it looks pretty good in terms of gaining quality muscle with little or no bloat. I was thinking of using winny and anavar stack for my first cycle but dont want to get into some of the AAS that cause alot of water retention or bloat only because i work in an environment where if i get big too quickly it will get noticed and could possibly get people suspicious of AS usage. what do yall think?
 
I wouldn't use anavar for your first cycle. stick to test as a base and go from thier. What are your goals, stats, age etc.
 
My goal is to be around 200 lbs with 10% or less BF. I am currently 29 yrs old, 179lbs 5'6" around 11% BF.

wouldnt test make me bloat alot though?
 
I would start with 500mg of test e for 12 weeks using arimidex @ .5mg ed for bloat along with deca @ 400mg ew to start. You will put on some nice size and eat like an animal and drink a but load of water. For weeks 11-15 use winny ed @ 50mg
 
radical, wouldn't the winny serve better use in a cutter than a bulking cycle? If he wants to keep as much muscle post cycle. I was told to use Clen. What do you think?
 
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