Second Cycle

alpineslide · Sep 13, 2003

I'm thinking about my second cycle that I will be starting in a month or so. My first cycle was Deca 300 mg / week for 10 weeks.
I was thinking :

1-10, 500 mg Equipoise
1-11, 500 mg Test Enth.
1-14 Arimidex @ .5 mg ED
13-16 PCT with clomid

Nolva on hand, but I don't think I'll need it with the arimidex.

Should I try to kickstart the cycle with 100mg Test Prop. Eod for the first 2 weeks ?

I'd prefer to stay away from orals( d-ball, Anadrol )....don't really want the excess bloating.

Stats:
6'00", 210 lbs, < 10 % bodyfat

jaywooly · Sep 13, 2003

Yup, I'd go with a kickstart if you're running EQ and Test Enth.

I'd say go 150 mgs EOD though with the prop. Yeah, IMHO d-bol is no good.

Good luck bro.

winnie · Sep 14, 2003

I personally like the kickstart myself, and would go with maybe 80mg prop ED for the first 20 or so days. I would also recommend bumping up the weekly test to 600mg EW.

Other then that, it looks good.

midwtchamp · Sep 14, 2003

yup yup what they said was good...I would do the prop 100 mg eod but that is just what I think...personally when I jump I use 200 mg eod!

mailboxkillR · Sep 14, 2003

Like everyone said prop .80ed=560/wk same as bumping enth to 600. One question why stop EQ at 10 and enth at 11 quanity reasons?

alpineslide · Sep 14, 2003

mailboxkillR said:
Like everyone said prop .80ed=560/wk same as bumping enth to 600. One question why stop EQ at 10 and enth at 11 quanity reasons?

I'm stopping the equipoise at 10 and Test enth. at 11 because PCT with clomid is started 3 weeks after equipoise and 2 weeks after test enth.

midwtchamp · Sep 14, 2003

NO NO it is 3 weeks after you longest acting steroid.....just run prop up until you have to run clomid like a week before...also test is almost 3 weeks too so just run them both all the way through

alpineslide · Sep 14, 2003

Thanks for your responses and input

I'll add a little to my cycle based on the input I've received. How's this look :

Days 1- 20, 100 mg test prop. EOD
Weeks 1-10, 500 mg Equipoise
Weeks 1-11, 500 mg Test Enth.
Weeks 12-13 100 mg test prop. EOD
Weeks 1-14 Arimidex @ .5 mg ED
Weeks 13-16 PCT with clomid starting 3 days after the last test prop. injection

Nolva on hand if needed

alpineslide · Sep 14, 2003

midwtchamp said:
NO NO it is 3 weeks after you longest acting steroid.....just run prop up until you have to run clomid like a week before...also test is almost 3 weeks too so just run them both all the way through

not meaning to doubt you, but I was thinking test enth. was 2 weeks. I was basing that off of some chart that I found on here. Sorry I can't seem to find it right now or I'd post a link to it.

alpineslide · Sep 14, 2003

Found that chart I was basing Clomid Therapy off of

Steroid Time after
last administration Length of
Clomid Cycle
Anadrol50/Anapolan50: 8 - 12 hours 3 weeks
Deca durabolan: 3 weeks 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 - 8 hours 3 weeks
Equipoise: 17 - 21 days 3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone: 3 days 3 weeks
Primabolan depot: 10 - 14 days 2 weeks
Sustanon: 3 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Enanthate/Testaviron: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days 3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension: 4 - 8 hours 2-3 weeks
Winstrol 8 - 12 hours 2-3 weeks

mailboxkillR · Sep 14, 2003

slide your right on track and good to go. I forgot about the variance in EQ i just always started clomid at 2 weeks after and didn't sweat the 3 days. Here's just one thing to consider on the prop at 100eod your only getting 350/week then jumping to 500/week of enth where as if you go 150oed your at 525/week yopur blood levels will be more constant.

Harvey Balboner · Sep 16, 2003

Re: Thanks for your responses and input

alpineslide said:
I'll add a little to my cycle based on the input I've received. How's this look :

Days 1- 20, 100 mg test prop. EOD
Weeks 1-10, 500 mg Equipoise
Weeks 1-11, 500 mg Test Enth.
Weeks 12-13 100 mg test prop. EOD
Weeks 1-14 Arimidex @ .5 mg ED
Weeks 13-16 PCT with clomid starting 3 days after the last test prop. injection

Nolva on hand if needed

i like it looks very good.

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