Anadrol and progesterone gyno

machine99

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Ok I've read that it causes progesterone gyno and I've read that it just causes regular estrogen related gyno. Someone give me the low down, I want to try it but I haven't read about anything except bromo that was supposed to help with progesterone gyno and that bromo didn't sound too great to me. If it is just estrogen related it wouldn't be a big deal.

Search that causes confusion:

http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7381&highlight=progesterone+anadrol

http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5784&highlight=progesterone+anadrol
 
I've even read studies on anadrol suppressing progestrerone...course it was in women on the period but still....


Am J Obstet Gynecol. 1975 Jan 1;121(1):121-6. Related Articles, Links


Perturbations of the human menstrual cycle by oxymetholone.

Cox DW, Heinrichs WL, Paulsen AC, Conrad SH, Schiller HS, Hezl MR, Herrmann WL.

The luteolytic activity of oxymetholone, and anabolic steroid, has been evaluated in 10 women. Administration early in the follicular phase of the cycle inhibited ovulation and prolonged the duration of the cycles in 2 of 3 subjects, but treatment beginning on Day 10 (3 subjects) did not prevent ovulation, although subsequent plasma progesterone concentrations were reduced. Treatment after ovulation (4 subjects) suppressed progesterone levels by 50 to 80 per cent and shortened cycle length by 6 to 8 days. Side effects were weight gain and bromosulfophthalein retention. The most likely mechanisms producing these perturbations are the inhibition of luteinizing hormone release early in the cycle and, later, inhibition of progesterone biosynthesis.

PIP: 10 ovulating women were treated with oxymetholone in 1 of 3 ways: 1) 50 mg twice daily every other day starting on the sixth day of the treatment cycle (early follicular phase), 2) 50 mg twice daily every other day starting in the late follicular phase (tenth day), or 3) 100 mg daily starting in early luteal phase. 2 women treated in early follicular phase had ovulation suppression and cycles prolonged 9 to 10 days, with progesterone suppressed by ovulated, and a third had a 71% suppression of progesterone. In the third group, cycle lengths were shortened due to a luteal phase shortening of 6 to 8 days, with progesterone values decreased 53 to 81%. Side effects noted were: weight gain (9 out of 10 patients) transient nausea, and increased bromsulphalein retention.

PMID: 1115110 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
LOL I just spent 10 mins typing a reply to this and something fcked up with my password and I lost it.

Oh well, here's the short version mate.

- No evidence that adrol is progestogenic.

- Bill Roberts made that up to try to explain why you get bloat etc even though there's no aromatization.

- Has none of the characteristics of other progestogenic androgens. i.e. it has a carbon atom at the C19 position whilst no other progestins (tren, deca, MENT) do.

- Probably estrogenic. It has OH group on A ring which estrogens do. It's the only comercially available androen to have this hydroxy group on the A ring.

- Nolva should sort it. Nolva works for me with adrol. Nolva's the king of anti-e's anyway (reduces prolactin, blocks estrogen, reduces IGF at breast tissue).

Short and sweet this time, hope it's of some use anyway bro.
 
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