Plan a winter bulker !

hey mates , im planning my winter bulker , actualy my 2nd cycle ever and i was wondering if I had only :

(T3,Primo,Winstrol,Para,Deca,EQ,Test,Sus,clen)
how will you create your fav bulker outa these ?

and if you have the choice of :
( Creatine ,Amino Acids2222,Amino Acids10000,Myoplex Deluxe,Myoplex )
which will you take ? other options ?

im 173cm
83-85 kg
around >15 BF

as usual I know this board was very helpfull to me in the past and still have faith in it ..

do you know where HB ? CE ? are

you need to list how of each you have

IMO you should save your creatine for post cycle
definately need to use the BCAA's
you can use both versions of myoplex

you need to check out Lab-Corp (use the banner to get there), they are a board sponsor and have very good products. Tell them I sent you.

will do that mate ,
but I mean to say , I do not have at the momento but are not considering to buy any other stuff .. like this is whats on hand how to mix ?

do i make sense ..

thx for ur reply

cheers

What's your cycle history like???
Not knowing that how about

1-12 test 500-750mg/week
1-12 deca 400mg/week

Or

1-16 test 500-750mg/week
1-16 eq 400mg/week

You could throw in winny the last 6 weeks but I don't like winny for a bulking cycle. Just seems like a waste to me. You may want to find somthing to kick it off like dbol for the first 6 weeks at 35-50mg/day or my favorite prop @ 100mg/eod or depending on your cycle history ed injections are better IMHO.
You could also run T3 at 25mcg/ed during your cycle also lab-corp has a great price on T3.

if you want the ULTIMATE bulker do:

Weeks 1-10: Test Enanthate @ 500-750mg
Weeks 1-10: EQ @ 400-600mg
Weeks 1-10: Deca @ 400-600mg

EQ and Deca are extremely synergistic together. They ARE not similar compounds. THey are no where near similar. They are totally different compounds that achive similar results through DIFFERENT pathways, EQ achives it mostly through activating the AR and increasing RBC and some anabolism, while Deca works through almost PURELY anabolic means (increased nitrogen retention, protien synthesis,e tc). When you combine Deca and EQ you attack muscle building from ALL angles. Adding in test completes the cycle as it adds to both the androgenic and anabolic mechanisms. This is THE best bulker..PERIOD. Try it and then come back and thank me for suggesting it.

I did a similar cycle (only differance was that I ran 1g of Test, however about 4 weeks worth of the test I ran was TOTALLY bunk, BDL garbage...but I also ran 40mg ED of Dbol for 5 weeks in the beginning) and went from 216lbs to 258lbs. Not the leanest gains (I was on a see-food diet) but fuck it, you wanted a bulker well that was one hell of a bulker!

As saturn stated, you could throw in winny at the end. I dont think winny is a waste in a bulker though. See, one problem with my cycle was the lack of strength gains at the end. They just werent there, I kept growing like a weed all the way through, but stopped getting stronger (although admittedly, one big reason ws that the dbol made me so strong, I injured my wrists and shoulders and couldnt move as much weight later in the cycle). So if you wanna balance out your mass gains with strength gains, winny at the end would do you very well. Id run that weeks 8-12 at 50mg-75mg ED.

Good point there hitmeoff. I thought about eq and deca on my next cycle.

hitmeoff, i think that may be a bit to excessive for only his second cycle. Unique, u need to post what ur first cycle was and how long ago it was.

Saturn, have u ever run winny at 100mgs or 150mgs per day? i didnt notice much as far as growth till i got up around those doses. im sure the gram of tren helped too!

big_byrd52 said:

hitmeoff, i think that may be a bit to excessive for only his second cycle. Unique, u need to post what ur first cycle was and how long ago it was.

Saturn, have u ever run winny at 100mgs or 150mgs per day? i didnt notice much as far as growth till i got up around those doses. im sure the gram of tren helped too!

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I dont thik its excessive, its only three compounds, none of which are 17-aas. If think about it, most first cycles are 3 compounds: Test/deca/dbol or Test/eq/dbol. THis is the same, but instead of the dbol you add in the deca or eq. Granted I did say he could add in winny at the end, but even then I dont think its excessive. Say we have Test/Deca as our base, EQ is a pretty safe drug as far as health goes, its not going to shut you down any more than Deca will already have, and at 400mg doses it shouldnt mess with your BP anymore than the test will already have. I think its a fair cycle so long as he doses accordingly.

As far as the winny goes, I have done 100mg a day of winny (albeit IPs winny), and didnt think much of it in terms of gains...in fact, only thing I gained on 50mg vrs 100mg was about twice the zits! But everyone is different.

saturn said:

Good point there hitmeoff. I thought about eq and deca on my next cycle.

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Do it bro. After you bulk with those 2, I guarantee you will never do a bulker without Deca AND EQ in it!

big_byrd52 said:

Saturn, have u ever run winny at 100mgs or 150mgs per day? i didnt notice much as far as growth till i got up around those doses. im sure the gram of tren helped too!

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I ran it at 100mg/day once. I guess winny just isn't the best for me. I noticed the same effects that I had at 50mg/day.

hitmeoff said:

Do it bro. After you bulk with those 2, I guarantee you will never do a bulker without Deca AND EQ in it!

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I may try it. I'm starting my next cycle in a couple weeks.

hitmeoff great info there mate ,, thanks allot .
my pev cycle was 2 months ago , i was on Primo/Winny/EQ for 10 weeks , got great gains but fucked up at the end cuz i had to travel and lost most of the gains , add that i didnt do clomid for post cycle !!

another questiong should it be Test Enanthate or Primo or Para ?? or any of them !!

Ill have B5 thats for sure but you reckon other antis would be better ?

cheers

unique said:

do you know where HB ? CE ? are

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Nope, can't say I do. Haven't seen em in a while. Doubt they will be back.

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unique said:

another questiong should it be Test Enanthate or Primo or Para ?? or any of them !!

Ill have B5 thats for sure but you reckon other antis would be better ?

cheers

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For pure mass nothing beats Enanthate.

B5 is used to treat acne, not as an anti. Since you are goin for pure mass, I suggest you let yourself bloat up...you'll loose the water later on down the line anyway, and water makes for a good anabolic enviroment.

If you are prone to gyno, maybe just enough femera to hold it off.

i heard aramdex and others are being used !!

unique said:

i heard aramdex and others are being used !!

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Arimidex is cool, but femera is better at controlling aromatization and doesnt quite lower IGF-1 as much as arimidex.

I will never go back to arimidex-I am on Letro and am holding 0 water with a gram of test and 70mg of d-bol