Alternative to alcohol

As a bodybuilder, alcohol can easily put a stop to ur gains and turn u into a lard ass... I am always on my toes to find ways to stay healthy yet still get pretty fcked up and have a good time...

GHB is rare these days and if you do find it, its around $20 or more an ounce! its insane...

Well my most recent discovery is DXM... aka Dextromorphan Hydrobromide (Dextromorphan HBr)

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm.shtml
http://www.dextroverse.org/index2.shtml

Here are reasons i like DXM over alcohol:

- Legal to buy OTC
- Doesn't make you a fat ass, and can actually help burn fat
- no vomiting
- gave me a very good drunkish feeling
- no hangover the next day
- lasts around 8 hours

All i did was take around 300mg of DXM (from robitussum gel caps) and it made for a good time!

Like with all drugs there are always down sides, DXM is a dissassciative drug like Ketamin and PCP... and it has been shown to cause brain lesions in LAB MICE, not in humans...

however the dosages needed to develop the lesions are very high and you have to be abusing DXM day in and day out...

for bodybuilders just tryin to have a good time, doin a very low dosage like 300mg every so often isn't that harmful...

if your overly cautious you can try taking your DXM along with Coenzyme Q-10

Another interesting effect is you can double your DXM's potency by drinking GRAPEFRUIT juice with it, some have also said the same effect can occur from taking milk thistle with the DXM.

For much more information regarding DXM please look at those two links i have futhur up the page... I know this thread might raise some debate but for me DXM is much better/safer than alcohol especially for the juicing bodybuilder

bodybuilders best friend = vodka lol, when u care to even drink that is, im not into all the other shit like gabba or feelng disaasociated from others,lol

bodybuilders best friend= It's sticky, It's green, And it grows on a tree(well not really)

It doesn't make you fat, or dehydrated, it makes you hungry so you can eat more and grow bigger. And it always makes sure you get a good nights sleep. And, its cheap and up to an ounce is not a crime in CA.
What more could u ask for?

lmao, true but I can not for the life of me function on that shit, makes me crazy and lazy and very disassociative,

Absinthe...Never tried it though. It may still be alcohol.... Personally I'm a big fan of the sticky.

The weed made me lazy. Gave it up years ago. Good for appetite, though.

Ive read a few studys which suggest weed is a serious inhibitor of natural test production and can elivate estrogen levels in males. I dont suppose that matters though when youre banging 1.5 g of test a week anyway.

Im a big fan of the green, was a big fan of GHB too untill they banned the bastard - now i cant find it anywhere.

GHB is the king of alcohol replacments.

Ive tried DXM before, but it made me feel weel wierd, like ketamine or mushrooms, not something I could do on a weekend to weekend basis. Odd stuff.

DXM made me feel awesome, very euphoric

Anything you do is going to have some type of ill side effect. I caution all that I think dependancy is by far the worse, and that could come with ANY drug, including alchohol.

thats crazy!

never did iit never want to, only Gaba before it was banned slept like 4 hours and felt very refreshed and ready to go!
Its bad enough walking around like a human pincushion than taking some cough and cold DXM trip...thats ok I will stick to being my own guinnea pig and not hinder everything I have worked for.......but thanks for the heads up especially since there are 14 year old kids doing this shit thats how stuff gets banned..soon it will be banned with prohormones and you have to get a doctors script to get anything for your serious colds..lol

Dont take offense to this but in a way its true..if a secret is kept then no ones knows to ban it! just a thought..I did smoke the cheeba in High school but that was way back when it was cheap and real..lol

21g said:

Absinthe...Never tried it though. It may still be alcohol.... Personally I'm a big fan of the sticky.

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I heard absthine is very popular in europe,Isnt it the drug the edgar allen poe(i think) cut a piece of his ear off while on it.Sounds kind of crazy to me,anyways i heard that shit makes you real emotional.
Sticky is the best i cant wait till they make that shit smoke less one day.

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strider said:

never did iit never want to, only Gaba before it was banned slept like 4 hours and felt very refreshed and ready to go!
Its bad enough walking around like a human pincushion than taking some cough and cold DXM trip...thats ok I will stick to being my own guinnea pig and not hinder everything I have worked for.......but thanks for the heads up especially since there are 14 year old kids doing this shit thats how stuff gets banned..soon it will be banned with prohormones and you have to get a doctors script to get anything for your serious colds..lol

Dont take offense to this but in a way its true..if a secret is kept then no ones knows to ban it! just a thought..I did smoke the cheeba in High school but that was way back when it was cheap and real..lol

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GABA hasn't been banned bro... do you mean GBL or GHB?

yeah I meant GHB but also LR was charged with GABA as well. It is soon becoming a controlled substance as well.
I personally liked it but hey with it being abused as a date rape drug and all...what can you do huh?

Breal said:

I heard absthine is very popular in europe,Isnt it the drug the edgar allen poe(i think) cut a piece of his ear off while on it.Sounds kind of crazy to me,anyways i heard that shit makes you real emotional.
Sticky is the best i cant wait till they make that shit smoke less one day.

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Absinthe is just booze, thats all it is, just a strong liquor. It ranges from 55 - 70%

All that shit about Absinthe making you hallusinate and shit is bollocks, just old wives tales. It'll get you drunk untill you fall over or start fighting, but thats about it.

What i still don't understand is that some of my friends that are bodybuilders have tried DXM at same dosage i take and sometimes even double what i take to feel drunkish... and they get no effects from it...

I guess i'm special or something because i really get fcked up off the stuff and i love it

I'm going to try DXM. I'll let you know how it feels.

absinthe contains wormwood which has thujone in it, not just alcohol. and it is illegal here so to say it doesnt do anything is probably because you've never had the real deal unless you tried it in europe, even then there is no way to measure thujone content so no way to tell if its good anyway.

AZ1 said:

bodybuilders best friend= It's sticky, It's green, And it grows on a tree(well not really)

It doesn't make you fat, or dehydrated, it makes you hungry so you can eat more and grow bigger. And it always makes sure you get a good nights sleep. And, its cheap and up to an ounce is not a crime in CA.
What more could u ask for?

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I could always hope that it wouldnt be a crime in FL ...

It makes me do whatever I am doing, really well ... eating, sleeping, or working (I do custom fabrication and painting as a hobby ... dont touch it at my job, though) ... it is great for bulking ... but then again, I dont need any help there ...

Breal said:

I heard absthine is very popular in europe,Isnt it the drug the edgar allen poe(i think) cut a piece of his ear off while on it.Sounds kind of crazy to me,anyways i heard that shit makes you real emotional.
Sticky is the best i cant wait till they make that shit smoke less one day.

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SMOKELESS? Just get the vaporizers,or bake it. All the bad side effects come from the smoke. It's so easy to bake(get out the THC)and the high lasts much longer. when you eat it. It does take a little longer before feeling the high,but no smoke no cancer. Some say it increases estrogen and lowers natural test,but i don't think it does. There have been studies saying it doesn't. I just don't do it anymore,because it makes me too damn lazy and forgetful

I used to love the green weed but the government (DOT random testing) says I can't smoke dat anymore...Valium is great but again DOT testing says no no. So now it's Tequila with a beer chaser...YEH!!!

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