For those who never come off...

jaywooly

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I'm sure your test would be year-round and you cycle in other drugs as you see fit. My question, do you keep your test doseages the same all year, with and without the other drugs?
 
Don't do it! Don't even think about it, it will just mess you up in the long run. I learned this the hard way :(

The only thing I would concider is long cycles like 6 months long with a couple months off inbetween, and if you had to run a low dose bridge inbetween.
 
Cordoba said:
Don't do it! Don't even think about it, it will just mess you up in the long run. I learned this the hard way :(

The only thing I would concider is long cycles like 6 months long with a couple months off inbetween, and if you had to run a low dose bridge inbetween.

IGF makes an excellent "bridge"....
 
Cordoba said:
Don't do it! Don't even think about it, it will just mess you up in the long run. I learned this the hard way :(

The only thing I would concider is long cycles like 6 months long with a couple months off inbetween, and if you had to run a low dose bridge inbetween.

I dnt think its so bad to stay on year round? the only way you will ever get to freak status (if thats what ur shhoting for) is to stay on, yes this is only my opinion but i would bet its almost dead on! it depends what ur goals are and if u compete etc,,, but most competitors who do well stay on year round and only change dosages and switch eters up etc..... it can be done safely believe it or not
 
Cordoba said:
Don't do it! Don't even think about it, it will just mess you up in the long run. I learned this the hard way :(

The only thing I would concider is long cycles like 6 months long with a couple months off inbetween, and if you had to run a low dose bridge inbetween.

And I'm not thinking about it. I'm doing it. I agree with press on this one, it can be done safely.
 
if you do this, when do you find time to cycle in your hcg and clomid therapy, hell my nuts shrink after 6 or 7 weeks on much less if i stay on for 6 months to a year, hell if i could do it and keep the boys functioning properyly i would to.
 
I know several guys who never come off test, the youngerst being 35. They stay on an average of 250-400 cyp or eth then bump it up to 2-3 grams for their cycle. Unless you got what it takes to turn pro, I wouldn't do it at your age, I'd give it another 8-10 yrs before I considered it. If I were to do anything yr round, I'd go with growth and shorter test cycles while your on the growth.
 
without being irresponsible i don't have any intention of comming off and have been on for well over a few years. even when i end a cycle i just use something while i plan the nexy cycle mostly without test. using compounds that don't cause you problems like nut shrinkage, acne etc keepme feeling good and looking good. muscular distrophy,kidney,liver and pancreatic cancer run in the family so i frequent the doc often. it can be done.
 
organdoner said:
without being irresponsible i don't have any intention of comming off and have been on for well over a few years. even when i end a cycle i just use something while i plan the nexy cycle mostly without test. using compounds that don't cause you problems like nut shrinkage, acne etc keepme feeling good and looking good. muscular distrophy,kidney,liver and pancreatic cancer run in the family so i frequent the doc often. it can be done.
give examples on how to do it, are you taking low dose dbol while hcg and clomid or low dose primo? give examples, iv tried to brige with primo at 300mg a week and with using shitloads of clomid and hcg still have a hard time with sex drive and getting my nuts back, sometimes i wonder if i use to much hcg and end up shutting my own production back down again.
 
jaywooly said:
From? (What mgs/EW during cycle)
On cycle my test dosage would usually be doubled to 800mg/wk, I don't use mega-doses. Sometimes its only bumped up to 600mg/wk. It mostly depends on what other drugs I stack on cycle.
 
This is an interesting thread. I have to take at the very least 300mg/wk just to have somewhat normal test levels. If I increased my dosage to 800mg/wk it should be something like someone doing around a 400mg/wk cycle, wouldn't it? (or close to it?)

Since I'm on all the time anyway, I'm interested in the long term effects of my normal dosage as well.
 
tonykemp said:
This is an interesting thread. I have to take at the very least 300mg/wk just to have somewhat normal test levels. If I increased my dosage to 800mg/wk it should be something like someone doing around a 400mg/wk cycle, wouldn't it? (or close to it?)

Since I'm on all the time anyway, I'm interested in the long term effects of my normal dosage as well.
yeah but staying on all the time doesnt that keep you shrunken up then all the time? which im sure age plays a big role as im 33 and i know it effects me more so now then when i was in my early 20's, at that point nothing effected me.
 
Actually, no. I have never had any shrinking of the boys at all, no gyno, and 'joe' as my wife calls it actually grew a little thicker :) . I'm 35, and I have been on now for 5 1/2 years. I probably should have been on as early as high school.
 
tonykemp said:
Actually, no. I have never had any shrinking of the boys at all, no gyno, and 'joe' as my wife calls it actually grew a little thicker :) . I'm 35, and I have been on now for 5 1/2 years. I probably should have been on as early as high school.
yeah my wife actually said mine grows thicker when im on or actually what i think is it makes me normal like im 18 again and i think she just gets used to it when im kinda shrunken up so when im on she thinks it grows, but anyhow, even while im on and still useing in the neiborhood of 750 to 1 gram a week of test, after about 6 or 7 weeks my sex drive starts to drop and my boys start shrinking, maybe its just me, do you ever through in clomid or hcg?
 
i always run a "base" compound, then add others when needed. pre-contest, i have to come right off of testosterone as it makes me hypoglycemic and i diet very low carbs.

i have been running a base of 200mgs a week of Durabolin, just recently switched up to winstrol V. (see thread the top 5 worst things i have EVER put in my mouth:D ) but i am still drinking it, as the shots clog and im not using a 22:eek:
 
I've thought about doing this from time to time...maybe for a couple of years...then gradually come off with anti-aromatese, nolvadex, and hcg (before stopping)....along with some proviron.
 
QueenofDamned said:
im not using a 22:eek:

You wimp! lol My first 3 cycles were with a 20 g monoject, ah what its like to be young and dumb I though injections were supposed to feel like that.
 
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