will adding d-bol help?

I am doing a test/ tren cycle test=10weeks, tren=12weeks and I was wondering if d-bol would help in the first4-5weeks begore the test kicks in. Will I lose the water gain from the d-bol because I add the tren? Tren absorbs all of that water right? Anyways I know this is a long cycle for tren but I am only doing 75mg. eod.

c'mon I'm sure there's some vets here that can answer this.

First of all,I'm not a vet, so to speak, but here's my .02:

I like dbol early in a cycle. I've heard a lot of members saying that they don't like orals period, but in my limited experience, a little "breakfast of champions" can really kick start your strength and provide...well, what I assume is a positive nitrogen balance, a good anabolic environment.

Second, I'm not sure why you're concerned with water retention so much...it's about to be winter and all. Anyway, I don't know what you mean about the tren "soaking up" the water retention caused by the dbol, but if you're concerned a little nolva or liquidex should alleviate most of that problem.

Hope that helps a little bit.

carlsky said:

Will I lose the water gain from the d-bol because I add the tren? Tren absorbs all of that water right?

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You'll lose the water only becoase you stop the dbol. Tren doesn't "absorb" water, I not even sure how that is possible by an aas. I see two options for you here. If you so concerned avout water, drop the dbol and use anavar in the begining. second option, since I'm not a big fan of you going that long with tren your first go around, I would do test/eq and throw in the fina for the last 6-7 wks at 100 eod. you could add your dbol in there if you wanted to.

ya but 10 -20 mg. you won't really get results from that low of a dose right? I thought people kick start there cycle with this. Why would they do it with d-bol if they would lose there size when going off it? Makes no sence to me.

carlsky said:

ya but 10 -20 mg. you won't really get results from that low of a dose right? I thought people kick start there cycle with this. Why would they do it with d-bol if they would lose there size when going off it? Makes no sence to me.

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its a mental thing..while your waitin for your longer esters to kick in say around 4-5weeks it feels good to be addin strenght and size right away,you don't lose all your size from the d-bol just the water...

but the water is what makes you look big. But the testosterone won't allow the water to stay with you? Should I just take a low dose of it or what?

same deal if I used drol right?

hell, maybe I'll just use prop. if the orals won't work the way I want I geuss.

what exactly do you want the orals to do??you'll still be holding water even when you stop the d-bol justnot a hell of alot of it if your runnin nolva etc..alot of water retetion and you look like the stay puft marshmellowman....and yup same with drol

what I mean is I will lose the water but will I shrink a lil too? I wanna get jacked that's what I want!!! I want the tren to add a little quality and shape to the muscle and test is a base for all cycles.

Oh, sorry for getting off track but this stack will make me pretty strong considering the tren right? I have a big ego BTW.

bro,you eat and train and sleep right your gonna grow..don't worry about stoppin the d-bol..and yes the tren is gonna make you strong...becareful with the weights you don't wanna hurt yourself...

It would be great for a kick start and no tren wont absorb the water.

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You'll lose the water only becoase you stop the dbol. Tren doesn't "absorb" water, I not even sure how that is possible by an aas. I see two options for you here. If you so concerned avout water, drop the dbol and use anavar in the begining. second option, since I'm not a big fan of you going that long with tren your first go around, I would do test/eq and throw in the fina for the last 6-7 wks at 100 eod. you could add your dbol in there if you wanted to.

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yep, anavar would be great too if you dont want the bloat.
great advice.

I thought tren made you look pretty musclular, dense, and ripped am I right?

carlsky said:

I thought tren made you look pretty musclular, dense, and ripped am I right?

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it will help...but diet will make you ripped...when your bodyfat is low tren will give your muscles a "harder" look...

I have taken 2 yrs. off the juice. I started back and feel great. I had the best results when a took an oral d-bol and an injectable -enathenate 250. WOW. By hitting both oral and injectable you are triggering two serarate receptors, in which the gains are tremendous. I had gained some water weight, but not to much. My biggest advice to keep a lot of the water gain off is to drink a lot of water. 1-2 gal./day. NO SHIT, the more water you consume the less water you retain, respectively. I am sure you heard it before, diet is key when you are training. Injest as much protein as possible and don't limit yourself on carbs (screw Adkins), this is where you will get your energy (carbs stored as fat). Don't forget when fat burns it speeds your metabolism, in turn you will get your cuts. I am 6'6" weigh 240lbs. with 4% body fat. Stay healthy and get plenty of rest.

did u get any sides junior , how much d-bol 4 how long

I did not get many side effects. Just the norm. My complexition is good anyway and I tanned atleast 2x/week to keep my pores dry. I did gain a little bit of water weight, but that is expected when one takes anabolics. I would take 25-30mg per day. I don't know how big you are, so I would start out with 3 tabs/day and see how you feel after the first week. If needed go to four,five, but no more than six. I would take them about 30min. prior to my workouts and only Mon-Fri. taking the weekend off. Dbol will stay in your system. Not everybody can workout seven days a week, which isn't good anyway. Muscles need a break too. I only do 4-6 wks. cycles then cycling off for 4-6 wks. The enanthenate 250mg would still be my system for an additional 2-3wks. after that cycle. Sorry if this sounds confusing. ReCap: During a cycle, I inject for 2wks. then I start taking dBol. This way I know that the oil is kicking and I know that the dBol is piggy backing. I got great gains and was able to maintain when I came off, with out losing a lot of weight. I dropped a total of 15lbs. in 2yrs. I know I would not have dropped as much if I did not blow a disc in my back doing squats. I started lifting 4.5 yrs ago. When I started I weighed 170lbs on 6'6" frame (skinny), I got up to 240lbs. Good Luck! Keep in mind, USE the supplements, don't ABUSE them. Rule of thumb, the quicker you gain, the quicker you lose. Build quality and keep it.