My 4th cycle:)

I am looking into my fourth cycle now which will start in beginning of may. I am currantly sitting at 240pounds with bodyfat around 20% (I know too high but am working on dropping a few % before next cycle). My goals for my 4th are to bulk and gain strength. After much much researching here is what I'm thinking, please add in comments or suggestions as I wanna make sure all is in check and I go into the best cycle I can:

Weeks 1-16: 750mgs test e ew
Weeks 10-17: 500mgs tren a ew
Week 18: start pct

I have included either dbol or drol in my past cycles but want to keep my liver values in check and screw the bloat. I prefer longer cycles as well to allow my body to adjust itself to a heavier wieght before coming off.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions!

tanker

The other cycle I am considering is this one:

Weeks 1-15: 750mgs test e ew
Weeks 1-15: 500mgs deca ew
Week 18: start pct

I'm not sure which one to run???:dizzy:

I would highly recommend adding winny to the tren ,test cycle bro, i say this with experience and i dont see much beneift in adding tren alone with test without the winny, i would also if adding the winny do it in the beginning, starting all three together, well i used prop so it all kicked together, but if ur using test e then I would wait about 5-6 weeks until ur test e kicks in then add the tren and the winny and you wil never experience anything like this cycle again unless u duplicate it, I have found it to be the best quality mass and strentgh gainer ever as have i read many many great reviews on this same cycle, i think ur 2nd listed cycle is a waist especialy for a guy going on his 4th or 5th cycle, at this point its time to rock bro and i honestly think u should do the test,tren winny cycle, and my personal prefrence is using prop so i can get going on the tren and winny soner plus hold less water on prop, hope that helped a little and again i highly recomend this bro and dont see much good in the 2 cycles u listed with only 2 compounds in each cycle especialy for a guy with some expreience like yourself

Thanks presser, I'll follow your advice. How does this sound:

Weeks 1-16: 750mgs test e ew
Weeks 8-17: 500mgs tren a ew
Weeks 10-17: 50mgs oral winny ed

In the above I would be on tren for a total of 10 weeks and winny for a total of 8 weeks. Is that more or less what you were thinking?

I vote for test,tren eq. I like winny, but I LOVE eq and for the $ I think it would produce better results in this cycle. You'll gain a little more than you would with winny, and it will help with the appetitite.

Will consider brew, appreciate your help. I have never ran eq before so not sure how it works for me. Have not ran winny either so not sure about it either.