Pointing someone in the right direction...

A few guys have expressed interest in me creating cycles for them.

I want to know, how many of you think it's okay for tren to be used in one's 1st cycle?

One guys wants size and one guys want to harden up a bit. They'r both fit guys at about 12-15% bf and inbthe mid-20's.

I did tren my first time......no problem if they are comfortable with shots.

sure if they can do the inj. like drew said.

Is this their first time with cycles,...If yes then i would recommend something simple, but if experienced then i would go with whatever u think would be right for them....

Personally i dont think most ppl are comfortable with ED shot for a length of time. I would keep it simple and basic like test/eq or even test by itself.

plus the way tren affects me Im gald I didnt run it til a few cycles in. I get real moody and irritable on tren. Test is fine, everything is fine, but tren makes me one moody bitch, so after a few cycles and you know how your body reacts...you know its the tren doing it and knowing that helped me calm myslef down alot. I would stick with something simple like a dbol test for the guy that wants mass, and a winny test for the guy who wants to harden up. diet will be key for reaching whatever goal they want to reach, so that needs to be relayed to them

your not leaving them anything to look forward to if they start with tren, i always though test wa the "ALL BE IT" of gear for many years, then tryed tren and had alot to look forward to until i seen that i cant take it do to bad sides, anyhow i dont know if anyone should start with tren, depends on them i suppose

If they can handle the sticks and the sides they are all good...........I personally turn into a violent pissed off son of a bitchin no good bastard on tren.

There seems to be a big difference of opinion on this 1, I tend to agree with Presser and Mo and the few others, but opinions are like asshole every1 gots 1. I would say to keep there first time basic and simple.