What do you think? oral vs. injection

godfatheriv2005 · Dec 13, 2005

-ok well here is my case, I recently decided to go on a series of 4 week on and 4 week off oral d-bol cycles(25-50mg/day). last month i had started off the cycle planning on stacking with test-enan.250(250-400mg/week), but just 2-3 weeks in i had started breaking out with acne all over chest, back and worst-face. so i decided f**k it and called it quits with the test. this happened before with the test so i figured it might have something to do with it being oil based. well recently i found oral androil (test) and thought maybe i should use this as a replacement, in hopes of no acne problem, and stack with d-bol
-my question to everyone is should the oral lessen the chance of breakouts or worsen it? also what would be a good mild dosage?and is 4 week on/off cycles long enough like for the d-bol?
thanks everyone

dreww · Dec 13, 2005

godfatheriv2005 said:
-ok well here is my case, I recently decided to go on a series of 4 week on and 4 week off oral d-bol cycles(25-50mg/day). last month i had started off the cycle planning on stacking with test-enan.250(250-400mg/week), but just 2-3 weeks in i had started breaking out with acne all over chest, back and worst-face. so i decided f**k it and called it quits with the test. this happened before with the test so i figured it might have something to do with it being oil based. well recentle i found oral androil (test)
-my question to everyone is should the oral lessen the chance of breakouts or worsen it? also what would be a good mild dosage?and is 4 week on/off cycles long enough like for the d-bol?
thanks everyone

oral only test is terrible! bad results, high dosages, and expensive.

doctorwill · Dec 14, 2005

Here are a couple thoughts.

The acne isn't coming from the oil in the AAS. You are only inecting maybe 2 cc's a week - which is less than what you would get in a piece of apple pie. It is because AAS can cause acne. Though Test is probably worse than Dbol, Dbol also causes acne, but everyone reacts a bit differently.

Probably the easiest way to deal with this is to use some of those acne wipes and acne ointments before you start AAS. Do it twice a day and go to a tanning place once a week. Then, when you are in mid cycle, you should be much better. Trying to stop it after it starts is pretty hard.

If you want an AAS that is easier on acne, try EQ, Primo, and/or Anavar. But you will need SOME test as your endogenous test production will stop after a bit. I think a lot of folks find that they have a threshhold and can tolerate test up to a certain amount a week without many sides. But you will want test as it is a great mass builder.

Accutane will stop the acne, but it is hard on the liver and there are some other significant sides.

What are your goals? 4 week on and 4 off sounds kinda odd. I would go for a 12 week cycle and not bother with dbol (which you shouldn't use for more than 4 weeks). Dbol is hard on the liver, jacks your BP, and just adds water and makes you look like you are on AAS. If you went with a test, eq cycle, you would get some higher quality gains and if you used eq rather than dbol, you will probably find that the acne is less.

Finally, orals are hard on the body and produce modest long-term gains. You are better off with injections.

saudades · Dec 14, 2005

I have to agree with doctorwill. Injections are the way to go.

mikeswift · Dec 14, 2005

the other way to keep the sides at bay is to try and keep your levels consistent without having your hormone levels rising up and down. 4 on and 4 off isn't going to give your body very much time to adjust one way or the other and you're just asking for more side effects i.e. acne.

pantothenic acid @ 3 or 4 grams a day until syptoms subside and then 1g a day after that

jth250 · Dec 14, 2005

as for the tanning thing. i developed a little bit of an acne problem with my last run which was like 3 or 4 months ago. its not really bad, just a few large bumps on my back. i figured that tanning would clear me right up. ive been hitting the booth 3x/week for about 3 weeks now and it didnt really do much. it might have helped a little bit. it just makes them harder to see

mikeswift · Dec 14, 2005

"it just makes them harder to see" that's pretty much all it does except for dry your skin out some if you've got oily skin

godfatheriv2005 · Dec 14, 2005

i planned on doing test for 10-12 weeks, it was just the d-bol for 4 weeks on/off b/c thats what i heard was ok. also i know about water retention thats why i threw in plenty of anti's and pct. so you all say eq would be a good stack to throw in??

ChuckaZulu · Dec 15, 2005

Great reply Bro :thumbsup:

Everyone starting out should take note.

doctorwill said:
Here are a couple thoughts.

The acne isn't coming from the oil in the AAS. You are only inecting maybe 2 cc's a week - which is less than what you would get in a piece of apple pie. It is because AAS can cause acne. Though Test is probably worse than Dbol, Dbol also causes acne, but everyone reacts a bit differently.

Probably the easiest way to deal with this is to use some of those acne wipes and acne ointments before you start AAS. Do it twice a day and go to a tanning place once a week. Then, when you are in mid cycle, you should be much better. Trying to stop it after it starts is pretty hard.

If you want an AAS that is easier on acne, try EQ, Primo, and/or Anavar. But you will need SOME test as your endogenous test production will stop after a bit. I think a lot of folks find that they have a threshhold and can tolerate test up to a certain amount a week without many sides. But you will want test as it is a great mass builder.

Accutane will stop the acne, but it is hard on the liver and there are some other significant sides.

What are your goals? 4 week on and 4 off sounds kinda odd. I would go for a 12 week cycle and not bother with dbol (which you shouldn't use for more than 4 weeks). Dbol is hard on the liver, jacks your BP, and just adds water and makes you look like you are on AAS. If you went with a test, eq cycle, you would get some higher quality gains and if you used eq rather than dbol, you will probably find that the acne is less.

Finally, orals are hard on the body and produce modest long-term gains. You are better off with injections.

What do you think? oral vs. injection

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