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Reptile8030

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what's up guys it's been a bit, been busy with wrestling but I plan on running my first cycle in about a month and a half after I get my weight back up through eating and get back in a normal lifting routine. I plan on an 8 week cycle of anadrol at 100mg and then a 2 week cycle of clomid at 100mg. This is an oral cycle and I will have nolvadex on hand. Do you guys have any suggestions to this or any other ideas? thx
 
why are you goin oral only? I'd say take a tip from everyone else's experience and go with a standard beginer's test cycle.
 
I would highly advise not to take an oral for your first cycle. Especially an oral like Drol. Your strength will go up tremendously from what I have read and that could lead you to injury. Do what the other guys said, run something like Test E or Cyp for 12 weeks at 500mg/week. Hell you could even stack it with Deca or EQ for a little extra added mass.
If you are hell bent on running at oral only cycle I would suggest doing a TBol cycle. Most oral only cycles are failures bro.
 
If your not prepared for injections than you shouldn't be using gear...PERIOD. Please research prior threads here. Read Big A's thread on principles for beginers.

In short(if your too damn lazy to do research on your own) your cycle should have a test base, EQ(I'd op for this sense your in sports) and if you want an oral (which will kill cell resperation, rendering you completley useless for endurance sports) then go with DBOL for bulk or anavar for strength with out the added water retention and sides.
 
Thats not a good first cycle. Not only is it one of the most liver toxic steroids but most of what you will gain will be water. I can speak from experience because my first cycle was exactly what your planning only 14 years ago and left me dissapointed.....No internet then. You have the luxury of the internet now and the advice of alot of experience from these guys.

A typically good first cycle will include a testosterone ester ( enanthate, Cypionate, propionate), an anabolic such as deca or EQ and dbol.

More research required. Play it smart and never be afraid of the needle.....
 
pretty much sums it up bro... seriously hope you reconcider your first cycle choice. sounds like you already have your ancilliaries.. but you need to think about test - it should never be a concideration, it should always be a base for just about anything cycle wise
 
Lets see some stats before we help you out bud. Also, thats a horrible cycle. Like whats been mentioned a test only cycle would be better choice and safer for you.

Post your stats and we'll help ya out more.
 
you know something Bros........

Every time I see a first cycle question....everyones automatic response is a long cycle with a long Test ester.........

WHY???

What if he doesnt like it? Plus, he has to wait at least 3 weeks to even find this out and by that time.....he is sort of fraked.

Whats wrong with a short cycle using short esters???

This way, he could decide rather quickly if he likes it and how the body is going to react.

Bro, if you where to run a cycle of TestP/75mg and TrenA/50mg ED for 4 weeks....you would easly gain 20 to 30lbs of lean muscle and shred BF at the same time. I would even throw in some Masteron at 50mg/EOD.

By doing a short cycle like this...you dont even have to really worry about sides and PCT, except for running some Nolva for a couple of weeks.

And a nice thing about Tren is how it will help with the diet if its not up to par.

And Bro...i wouldnt run a Test/Dbol stack...you are talking about alot of aromatizing. And if you were going to use an AI with it.....why do it to begin with?
 
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TREN for a first cycle?...no, that's terrible advice. Tren is a very harsh compound and should be considered about 5 cycles down the road.

If you want to use shorter esters than fine. Prop is best used @ ED injections so I hope you’re prepared for that.

DBOL and test make a GREAT combo and the only reason you should stay away from it is if you’re going to be competing in sports while using it. Otherwise, keep nolvadex on hand.
 
sandiego said:
TREN for a first cycle?...no, that's terrible advice. Tren is a very harsh compound and should be considered about 5 cycles down the road.

If you want to use shorter esters than fine. Prop is best used @ ED injections so I hope you’re prepared for that.

DBOL and test make a GREAT combo and the only reason you should stay away from it is if you’re going to be competing in sports while using it. Otherwise, keep nolvadex on hand.
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different strokes for different folks. I personally agree with test only long ester for a first. but my opinion is based almost entirely on the number of injections. I feel that will be a bigger factor than sides for a first timer. obviously Iron sees other issues as priority. but tren for a first timer? :eek:
 
Why harsh???? Have you used Tren before??
Whats so harsh about using that low amount on a short cycle??

But you will recommend a long cycle of test/d-bol for a newbie and I can assure you that a long cycle of test/d-bol is going to give you more sides than a Shorty with Tren and Test. Or even Tren with Dbol on a Shorty

Let me ask you this......

Unless you are prone to estrogen.......When do sides usually start popping up?

And NO, Tren is not hard on the kidneys (myth).

The only issue with Tren/TestP is the frequent injecting required.

BUT there is a positive to that.......practice makes perfect ;)
 
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Also, let me say this......

This is the first cycle I have used for all my clients 1st cycle (unless their is a BP issue) and no problems with sore truely amazing results.

So its not just "me saying this"........
its experience
and not just my own.
 
The Iron Bull said:
Why harsh???? Have you used Tren before??
Whats so harsh about using that low amount on a short cycle??

But you will recommend a long cycle of test/d-bol for a newbie and I can assure you that a long cycle of test/d-bol is going to give you more sides than a Shorty with Tren and Test. Or even Tren with Dbol on a Shorty

Let me ask you this......

Unless you are prone to estrogen.......When do sides usually start popping up?

And NO, Tren is not hard on the kidneys (myth).

The only issue with Tren/TestP is the frequent injecting required.

BUT there is a positive to that.......practice makes perfect ;)
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yes, I have used tren before, a few times, at different dosages. and I didnt say test AND dbol for a first. Dbol sides are potentially dangerous too IMHO.

as for estrogen sides concern.....we have AI's and nolvadex to help out with that issue.

you got great results for your clients...that great. But it known that the best results from the best AAS. You want mass, anadrol will do it. But the sides are harsh. You want a lean, dry look....get on tren....but the sides are harsh.
 
dreww said:
yes, I have used tren before, a few times, at different dosages. and I didnt say test AND dbol for a first. Dbol sides are potentially dangerous too IMHO.

as for estrogen sides concern.....we have AI's and nolvadex to help out with that issue.

you got great results for your clients...that great. But it known that the best results from the best AAS. You want mass, anadrol will do it. But the sides are harsh. You want a lean, dry look....get on tren....but the sides are harsh.
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Once again Bro, what's harsh about it??
 
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