Next Cycle, whatch yall think

da_Fonz

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Here it goes, tell me what yall think. I am still playing with it. I havent run Masteron before so I plan to run it low to see how I react to it and adjust accordinly for future cycles. I know the EQ is high but I dont have BP problems.

Test Enth 750mg/ml wks 1-16
Eq 800mg/ml wks 1-16
Mast 300mg/ml wks 6-18
HCG 500 iu's 2x wk wks 4-18

PCT will be Clomid wks 1-5: 150mg ED/100mg ED/100mg ED/50mg ED/50mg ED and Aromasin wks 1-6: 20mg ED

So any suggestions or results anyone got from a similar cycle, and yes the diet is on point as well as training and cardio.
 
What's your goals here Fonz?

sounds like your trying to lean out or bulk in the cleanest/leanest way possible(mast?)?

That being the case I think the eq is PERFECT....Switch to 100mg/ed prop...add tren and go for TBOL for an oral.

I'd cut the HCG dossage to 250 E/W starting from week 2.
 
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You didn't mention stats or experience which would help but I am new on this board and others may be well aware of those. Also, I assume this a bulking cycle. With that in mind I feel your length of cycle is just too long, it will be very hard for your body to recover from despite your postcycle plans. I have used all the products you list many times and I feel that your eq dosage is just too high. IMO eq above 400mg/wk is just a waste and I wouldn't use it past about wk 8 or 10. I would cut in half and save the rest for the next round. If this were my cycle I would bump the test to a gram/wk , I seem to get my best gains at that dosage.
If recovery is a concern and with your post cycle plans I assume that it is, I would do this:

Test enth 1000mg/wk wks 1-8
Eq 400mg/wk wks 1-8
Mast 300 mg/wk wks 6-12

By the way I love the mast, I have used it precontest and it is great for lean mass and to solidify gains.

By shortening your cycle will recover faster and be able to start your next cycle sooner,

Good luck with your cycle.
 
Hey Sandiego, yeah i'm looking to make some lean gains while cutting some bf too at the same time. Yup you heard it right gain while cutting fat. IT CAN BE DONE, its called diet and I have it dialed in

Stats; 6'1 260lbs bf 15%. Been lifting for over 10 years, used gear for 5 years with plenty of cycles under my belt. Training is a combo of power and bodybuilding.

As for the EQ I realize this is high but I have run it @ 400mg EW and it was a waste of time and gear as to i didnt see much in the case of resultz. I am running it high but plan on backing it down if the sides (BP start to give me problems). ALso, from my personal experience I benefit from running EQ in longer cycles usually 15 weeks. Anything under 12 weeks isnt worth it imho.

As for running tren, thats not going to happen. I'm a asshole to say the least on tren, just ask NVS she knows better than anyone. I love the resultz form it but not worth it imho. I planned on running the test enth b/c i have 5 vials of BD and plan on using that as well as the EQ. Dont wanna run any orals on this one b/c its gonna be a long one and I allready have all the goodies.

Sandiego, I am eager to see what the masteron will do for me since I need to find a viable substitute for tren since I'm not gonna run that again.

I may throw in dost @ .5mg E3d throughout the cycle b/c of the masteron havent made up my mind just yet. And with this cycle being so harsh I will prob start my HCG from wk one and run it throughout till the end.

I realize this is a long one, which i probably cut down a lil but def not shorter than 12 weeks b/c of the EQ.
 
Cycle doesnt look to bad, ide def. run the EQ 600 or over, and for atleast 12-14 weeks. Make sure you b/f is pretty low when you start to take the masteron or else you wont get much results. A lot of people say dont take it inless your around 8 percent, so you'd prob. want to be around 10 percent atleast before you hit that up.
 
Yeah I'm dropping my bf as we speak and wont run this for a lil while. I def want to be as lean as possible before i start this one. I'm intrigued to see what this masteron will do for me. I know its all DIET when it comes to resultz but i want to see what all the hype is about.
 
i'd say keep the eq at 800 for sure. If I use it again, it wont be less than 800 and i will be dieting down. Guess neither of us see much from it.

if you plan on being pretty lean near the end of the cycle, when the masteron is working, you might want to lower the test to like 500. might help dry you out a little more.
 
looks good to me..
so many combos to achieve goals that it really comes down to what work sbest for your body type. we all react differently to teh same cycle... If you choose to keep the combo you presented be surew your diet is as good as you can keep it.. From 22 years of training and bb'ing the one thing i did wrong all the years i trained/cycled/competed was this.. I was TOO clean in my diet... figure out what you need to grow calorie wise the break it down into a ratio and be sure you follow that.. Ratio is what it is all about bro..
monitor your progress and adjust carbs/ protein.. its that easy

Good luck and happy growing
 
I'm doing a carb rotation with a carb cutoff time which has worked well for me in the past and so many others also. I def agree with you about the ratio's as well as the numbers b/c you can interchange foods to help keep your sanity.
 
i think it looks great you can cut on anything and if diet is dialed in like you say it is water shouldnt be a problem. Im eager to see what kind of results you get from the masteron. i dont see a problem with running the 16 full weeks no orals just keep your bp watched and bloodwork and i think you will be fine. i personally like this cycle just not up to the dosages you are quite yet :) good luck man and keep us posted.
 
da_Fonz said:
Hey Sandiego, yeah i'm looking to make some lean gains while cutting some bf too at the same time. Yup you heard it right gain while cutting fat. IT CAN BE DONE, its called diet and I have it dialed in
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NO BRO....its caled TREN

Get rid of the EQ add Tren
Keep the Masteron, just for the basic fact that it will FREE UP more test for you.

Cut the cycle length down.......

The longer the cycle,
the longer to recoup.

The longer to recoup,
the more you lose.

That is unless your spot on with the PCT ;)
 
watch your blood pressure when running that much eq, i know anything over 600 and i get headaches like you wouldnt believe,maybe add some tbol or var and igf for a jump start
 
The Iron Bull said:
da_Fonz said:
Hey Sandiego, yeah i'm looking to make some lean gains while cutting some bf too at the same time. Yup you heard it right gain while cutting fat. IT CAN BE DONE, its called diet and I have it dialed in
QUOTE]
NO BRO....its caled TREN

Get rid of the EQ add Tren
Keep the Masteron, just for the basic fact that it will FREE UP more test for you.

Cut the cycle length down.......

The longer the cycle,
the longer to recoup.

The longer to recoup,
the more you lose.

That is unless your spot on with the PCT ;)

Cant run tren and IP I may just lower the EQ dose down a bit. We'll see.
 
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