Started first cycle do not feel any improvement!

Navy

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I started my first cycle on Monday 4 days ago.It is my first week already injected 500mg sustanon(Monday 250mg,Thusday 250mg),and 400mg of deca(on Wednesday).I don't feel and I don't see any changes my weight didnt change and streinght is the same.How long it is usually takes susta to kick in.I now deca is kinda slow.My weight is 200lb,my diet is 4000 Kkal daly,approximatly 250g protein training 3 times a week including only base exercises:havy bench,deadlift,squads ect.
It is GA gear I am sure it is good.My question is how long it is usually takes to feel that is working and see and feel results.
 
it'll be just a little bit before you notice a difference with the sus. The deca won't kick in for a few weeks yet.

I recomend that you you change you sus injections to be done every other day. This will keep blood levels stable and reduce unwanted sides that will be sure to come up should you continue as you are doing now.

good luck and try to take in even more calories...I know it's a total bitch.
 
Thanks sandiego for your replay.I'll increase calories by adding about 100-150g of protein I guess.I also will take 200mg of vitamin b-6 as well.I'll keep you guys posted on my results.
Right know I have perfect time for cycle I can sleep as many hours as I want(I work from home now) eat a lot and have plenty of rest.I am pretty much get out from the sofa just to go to the gym or drink a protein shake.:eek::eek::eek:
 
very basic cycle with basic workout program.

should see some great results bro. And laying around sleeping and eating all day sure help to mass up :)
 
I agree wtih SD. To get the full benifet of sust you need to be shooting at least EOD, thats why I never recomend sust for the beginer. Sust looks good on paper to alot of people, but when you disect it and look at have lives you realize you really gotta use it fairly ofter to make the most of those short esters thrown it there
 
I think I am going to encrease dosage to 600mg a week and shoot it EOD.What you guys think?
 
Navy said:
I started my first cycle on Monday 4 days ago.It is my first week already injected 500mg sustanon(Monday 250mg,Thusday 250mg),and 400mg of deca(on Wednesday).I don't feel and I don't see any changes my weight didnt change and streinght is the same.How long it is usually takes susta to kick in.I now deca is kinda slow.My weight is 200lb,my diet is 4000 Kkal daly,approximatly 250g protein training 3 times a week including only base exercises:havy bench,deadlift,squads ect.
It is GA gear I am sure it is good.My question is how long it is usually takes to feel that is working and see and feel results.

Navy, it isn't like an airpump and you just pump up your body. Read up on the two drugs you are taking. There is a small fast component to Sus but deca is a slow acting one. It can take 3-4 weeks before you really start to see a change. Trust me once you do, especially on your first cycle and you will know it.

Z
 
for a first cycle no need to jump to 600mgs of test, the shooting EOD part is very smart thoughh
 
The fast acting esters in the Sust should start to kick in about the 2-4 week mark, and then the longer acting esters should kick in around weeks 4-6. I have thought about using Andropen for my next cycle but I may use Test Cyp instead. Keep us updated on how you gains come from the Sust and Deca. I am def running Deca my next.
 
Thanks everybody for outputs.I will keep susta the same amout 500mg/week
for 10weeks,and deca 400mg/week for 7-8weeks.I'll try to do eod injections.
Mond.,Wendn.,Friday.,Sun. with 125mg shot wich is half of 1cc-sustanon.
Do I have to split 400mg of deca on several injections as well or one 400mg injection a week is fine?
 
I'll keep you posted during entire cycle how I do.I didn't come up with exact
PCT yet but I got 50 nolva -10mg,50 clomid-50mg and 4*2000iu HCG on hand.I think it is enough.What you bros think?I can get some more until it is too late.
Thanks
 
no need to split up your deca, 1 shot a week will do.

you'll find that everyone has a different philosphy when it comes to PCT and some things that work well for some people don't work well for others.. So, spend the next few weeks doing as much research on it as you can.
 
... definitely let us know how you feel around week 3-4... especially end of week 4.. you should feel pretty damn good.. in regards to viagra... body2see makes some sense... but there's a good chance as long as you stick to the rule of 3:2 test:deca you should be OK... but of course no guaruntee untill you hit that point.... hopefully no hard feelings b2see... just saying ...
 
I used that combo a lot thought the years. It definitely doesnt kick in till week 4. If your label shows the % for each test you'll notice the majority is in the decanate, and longer easters. They wont hit you till about week 4. Whats nice about sus, is it lasts for a long time too. You'll also want to modify your pct. Wait about 2-3 weeks after your last shot. I usually dont start to feel like a natty till about 4 months after my last shot. (what i mean by that is loss of strength, pain in the joints, soreness for 3-4 days..)

always start with a low dose during your first cycles. Mosty cause your body will adjust. Take it from someone who has to take 1g of test per week.... I really wish I started with much lower dosages...
 
Updating info.I guess sustanon started to kick in :satan:.
It is my 12th cycle day and I can notice sam mass gains 6.5 pounds gained already.Also noticed strenght gains.I fill no side effects yet,my sleep stabilyzed.
I feel very positive and looking forward to gain 30 more pounds.
Cucle is susta 500mg/week1-12
deca 400mg/week 1-10.
Will keep you updated.
 
good advice from every one here...
consider this, your first cycle you are gonna do better than any other cycle you run...your receptors are fresh...enjoy it while it last.
In your original post you said you were taking in 4000 cals, 250mg ed of protien....if you weigh in at 200lbs then you are gonna need to jump your protien to 1.5 or even 2gr per pound of body weight and continue to increase that as your weight goes up. I would suggest that if you are trying to gain mass then go upwords of 5000 cals ed...
Deca is great but you will msot likely not even notice its effects until week 5 or later...i would also continue running it through week 12 with the sust....EOD on the sust is also another excellent suggestion....As for gaiing 30 more pounds....well, lets be realistic...after cycle is over and you drop soem of the water you may be holding a more realistic goal is to gain about 20 pounds at the end of the chycle....good luck and keep us posted....Md-
 
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