Test-500/wk?????

Hello fellow lifters.

Im trying to get together a new cycle, Thinking about Test for 500mg/wk. Want to stack with it- thinking either Deca or EQ.

A little background here:

Im 21, 170lb been lifting for 5 years and this will be my 2nd cycle. Just finished Test-E at 250mg/wk for 10wks. Got a little out of it, just not as much as i expected or wanted to get out of it. Gained some strength but LOST ( yes...Lost ) 5lbs of body weight.

I want "good" gains but not TOO much, i work in a "government" job and dont really want to get noticed by the wrong people.

Im no pro by any means...any advice will be gladly taken. Thanks

if you did not get much out of 250mg on your first cycle then your gear was underdosed..not being a dick just saying is all..
personaly i would just stick with test 500mg if your diet is in check should not make you hold that much water..but its a fact of life that steriods make you blow up nothing you can do about that other than some anti bloat that MC sells on here..;-)
why dont you drop an oral in there like abombs there great imho...wont get that bloat that bdol gives and harden you up as well...
but slow progress gains and if you want to pin more juice then EQ i would think..
at least with EQ you not got to worry about deca dick right..

I'm not gonna give to much hell, but your to young... Wait till your 25-26. Ok that's outta the way. Your gonna do it anyway I'm sure, so here's my advice.
test E/C 500mg for 12 weeks. Dbol or Tbol 40-50mg a day
for the first 4-6 weeks . If you don't gain on that something is wrong.

Thanks for the advice. Viciouscycle- i know im young and your probably right, not much Can change my mind. Thanks for the odea, i like your cycle. I like the idea of dbol just scared i guess

Charlie: Yes i beleive my shit wake fake, after thinkin bout it for a while im pretty sure it was the test not all me. I read a bunch of conflicting info of EQ last night . Whats your opinion on it? Also Whats an abomb?

Sounds like bunk, underdosed, or not really test and was something else.
Everyone pretty much said the right stuff. Eat! Workout 5 days a week, and run it for more than 10 weeks.

viciouscycle said:

I'm not gonna give to much hell, but your to young... Wait till your 25-26. Ok that's outta the way. Your gonna do it anyway I'm sure, so here's my advice.
test E/C 500mg for 12 weeks. Dbol or Tbol 40-50mg a day
for the first 4-6 weeks . If you don't gain on that something is wrong.

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I would go with this

So during this cycle of Test-500mg/wk. Do i need to take an anti-e DURING the cycle. Im using Clomid 50mg ED for two weeks then EOD for a week or two. I decided on Just the Test, like i've read you Can Always bump things up during the cycle.

allboutthegainz said:

So during this cycle of Test-500mg/wk. Do i need to take an anti-e DURING the cycle. Im using Clomid 50mg ED for two weeks then EOD for a week or two. I decided on Just the Test, like i've read you Can Always bump things up during the cycle.

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yeah or wait til 3/4 of the way thru the cyc and run it past when you are done if you don't have any symptoms yet

I would run an anti-e like adex or exemestane.

allboutthegainz said:

Thanks for the advice. Viciouscycle- i know im young and your probably right, not much Can change my mind. Thanks for the odea, i like your cycle. I like the idea of dbol just scared i guess

Charlie: Yes i beleive my shit wake fake, after thinkin bout it for a while im pretty sure it was the test not all me. I read a bunch of conflicting info of EQ last night . Whats your opinion on it? Also Whats an abomb?

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so sorry i meant tbol not abombs i got them mixed up abomb= anadrol tbol=turnibol...i meant turnibol.anadrol will make you hold water and you dont want that right?...which is why i meant turnibol it will harden you out and dont hold to much water on it..once again my bad sorry for the confusion..

As I agree with some on here I will also comment that your age is a big factor here. You still have plenty of hormone in your body to use.
But if your going to ignore the advice of the veterans then heres my opinion:
Test E or C 500wk for 12 weeks
Dbol 30-40 Mg Day divided into doses 4-6 hours apart for 4-6 weeks
Nolvadex or arimidex through whole cycle.
If you do turinabol you will need high doses and market price inhibits that-if you do turinabol 60mg a day min is a good dose.
If you choose anadrol 50mg a day is all you need for 3-4 weeks-but it will make you feel like shit at first and lethargic, plus its harsh on the system-the anti e's will help reduce the bloat.
As for your PCT-
Start the clomid or hcg 10-15 days after your last shot.
Clomid 100mgs day in 2 doses of 50mg for 3 weeks
then 50mg a day for 2 weeks
If you use hcg then follow the recommended dose and yes you can combine them
Use nolva (min20mg day) or arimi through a cycle like this all the way to the end. it will help reduce the bloat and help the pct in the end.
REMEMBER, this is just my opinion based on my years of cycling and helping others with knowledge.
Do more research on the components listed above to see whats would be best for you and your goals.

Thanks for all the good advice!!!

On another note, anyone know how to complete an order with PSL??? Im trying to Pau via PayPal but for some reason it wont work. Any ideas?

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Thanks for all the good advice!!!

On another note, anyone know how to complete an order with PSL??? Im trying to Pau via PayPal but for some reason it wont work. Any ideas?

GOTGrowth is a member on this forum I believe he is a rep for PSL

Email them bro

I have tried emailing them, they want me to use a cashiers check, but im a bit of a sceptic so id feel much safer using PayPal

Most won't do PayPal.all it takes is one complaint and PayPal freezes all there money and shuts down transactions until the complaint is resolved.
western union or money gram is how 90% of these company do business.

you didn't get much out of the first cycle because 250mg/week is just over the amount to shut you down, you need to run at least 500mg/week

forget about anadrol (abombs) that's too harsh for your first cycle, start out small and work your way up-reason for this is you will develop a tolerance to anything you take...when you first started drinking what did it take to get a buzz??? 2 or 3 shots now what does it take? 6-10 shots?

start small eventually work your way up-but at some point you have to remember that the glass will only hold so much

at one point I was taking 3grams a week of test and I got no more out of that than I did 1.5 grams-it was a waste of gear, now that I've gotten older I'm not sure if 1 gram a week is the max of me

the more you take that you don't need the more gear is wasted and the worse the sides

dorian123 said:

you didn't get much out of the first cycle because 250mg/week is just over the amount to shut you down, you need to run at least 500mg/week

forget about anadrol (abombs) that's too harsh for your first cycle, start out small and work your way up-reason for this is you will develop a tolerance to anything you take...when you first started drinking what did it take to get a buzz??? 2 or 3 shots now what does it take? 6-10 shots?

start small eventually work your way up-but at some point you have to remember that the glass will only hold so much

at one point I was taking 3grams a week of test and I got no more out of that than I did 1.5 grams-it was a waste of gear, now that I've gotten older I'm not sure if 1 gram a week is the max of me

the more you take that you don't need the more gear is wasted and the worse the sides

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Thank God for D123 reply and couldn't agree more! I also did tons of gear and now get more quality muscle out of 500mg of test per week then I did at 2000mg/week. Why because back then more was better now less is key longer with the right diet! Maybe you should share how your meal plan looks like vs looking to take more AAS bro?

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Maybe you should share how your meal plan looks like vs looking to take more AAS bro?

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This is what I am thinking. At 21 if you're lifting and losing weight, you must not be eating enough! Unless you're fat, but at 170 lbs that seems unlikely. I don't remember you saying how tall you are...

Not to beat a dead horse, BUT, at 21 your natural test level is probably what mine is at 45 while I'm on 180 mg per week TRT. Yours could easily be higher than that. 'Not enough gear' is NOT your problem, it's 'not enough food'. At least that's my non expert opinion. Why not let your overactive nuts do their thing while they're doing it.

While on 180 mg a week TRT and eating like a horse a guy I worked with said to me, "You just keep getting bigger and bigger! Are you on steroids or something?" And don't forget I'm 45 with low natural test. So if you're worried about drawing too much attention from people at your government job, 500 mg a week (and a proper diet), especially given your age, might not be such a hot idea..............

Just my 2 cents.

I grew like a weed on one ampule of sustanon (250 mg/wk) on my first cycle. Jump starting with dbol I gained 25 lbs in one month.