Advice needed for a first cycle. Thanks.

Hi guys, this post is to ask for advice on a planned cycle i am going to do. Please feel free to comment on/recommend changes to the proposed cycle. (could you also comment on sites i am considering buying from). Thanks in advance.

A bit about myself first: i am 20 years old and i am 5'11 and weigh 96kg (after losing about 5kg in the last 3 months). I don't know what my bfp is but I'm guessing I'm around 15-20%. (i know i shouldn't be using test at this age but I've decided i want to so please just help me to make it as safe as possible for me).

I think i am predisposed to male pattern baldness which is why i am keen to use finasteride. I think i am also likely to suffer acne so i may keep roaccutane on hand at very small doses.

Cycle: (unsure whether to do a 6 or 8 week cycle)

o Testosterone propionate

- 100mg eod week 1 to 6/8

o Finasteride

- Tablet ed week 1 to 6/8
- Tablet ed week 6/8 to 10/12

o Nizoral 2% shampoo

o Exemestane (aromasin)

- 12.5 mg eod week 1 to 6/8
- 12.5 mg e4d week 6/8 to 10/12

o Tamoxifen (nolva)

(precautionary to stop gyno)

- 20 mg eod week 1 to 6/8
- 20 mg e4d week 6/8 to 10/12

o HCG

- 500 iu twice a week last four weeks of cycle
- 500 iu ed during four weeks of pct

whats up brother....

youre 20 years old.. whats the rush to cycle??

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also you need to run hcg from week 2 all the way to the day you start pct

where are your pct drugs?

too young you have plenty of test in your body...your not done growing yet

take the time to do more research instead of rushing into it, that's the mistake that I made

1- prop on first cycle. Have u ever pinned before. Virgin muscle in 99% of people is going to cripple you. Plus every 2 day injections can get a real pain in the ass. Excuse the pun. Site rotation is a must. So that's a lot of virgin muscle to pin.
2- if you go with prop go for 8 weeks. But better wth a long estre for 12 weeks.
3- the only one I can recommend is rs cart. Your looking at some shady sites there in my opinion. This is a sponsored board����
4- this might ruffle a few feathers but I would not run it hcg during pct.

Sorry I forgot to say welcome to Mc.
One of the better boards on the www.

charliebigspuds said:

1- prop on first cycle. Have u ever pinned before. Virgin muscle in 99% of people is going to cripple you. Plus every 2 day injections can get a real pain in the ass. Excuse the pun. Site rotation is a must. So that's a lot of virgin muscle to pin.
2- if you go with prop go for 8 weeks. But better wth a long estre for 12 weeks.
3- the only one I can recommend is rs cart. Your looking at some shady sites there in my opinion. This is a sponsored board����
4- this might ruffle a few feathers but I would not run it hcg during pct.

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Thanks for your feedback. Why do you recommend not using HCG during pct? (but do you still recommend i use it on cycle?)

dorian123 said:

too young you have plenty of test in your body...your not done growing yet

take the time to do more research instead of rushing into it, that's the mistake that I made

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Thanks for your reply. I understand what you are saying re 'i am too young', but after a lot of deliberation i have decided i want to reap the benefits of a cycle now. I have done a decent amount of research and i feel i have a somewhat decent grip of whats going on, but there is only so much i can learn through theory which is why i have asked for some advice from those that have been there and done it, so to speak.

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3J said:

whats up brother....

youre 20 years old.. whats the rush to cycle??

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also you need to run hcg from week 2 all the way to the day you start pct

where are your pct drugs?

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My proposed PCT consists of exemestane, tamoxifen and HCG (but i was planning to run all three during the cycle at different dosages). Take a quick re read as I've said what dosages during what weeks. Cheers for the reply!

Welcome to MC. Your in the right place. The sites you have listed are a violation of board rules. Please edit then delete them. My admin side is down. Do not ask for sources but please hang out and do your research.
Glad your here.

Iron-game said:

Welcome to MC. Your in the right place. The sites you have listed are a violation of board rules. Please edit then delete them. My admin side is down. Do not ask for sources but please hang out and do your research.
Glad your here.

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Apologies. Hopefully I've sorted it. Could i please ask your thoughts onmy proposed cycle?

Newuser121 said:

Apologies. Hopefully I've sorted it. Could i please ask your thoughts onmy proposed cycle?

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Thanks. If your determined to start a cycle I personally would go for 250-300 test cyponate or enathate / week. Less pinning.
Sounds like you are prone to sides. I am not but you have a well laid out plan. Get blood work monitor your BP and listen to your body. Keep a log here and let us help you.
How long have you been training? What's your diet like? Maybe we can help tweak something to get you over your plateau before you pull the trigger. Pun intended!

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Iron-game said:

Thanks. If your determined to start a cycle I personally would go for 250-300 test cyponate or enathate / week. Less pinning.
Sounds like you are prone to sides. I am not but you have a well laid out plan. Get blood work monitor your BP and listen to your body. Keep a log here and let us help you.
How long have you been training? What's your diet like? Maybe we can help tweak something to get you over your plateau before you pull the trigger. Pun intended!

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I have been training since i was 13 years old. However, i would say I've been training properly since about 15/16. I started off with the usual starting strength at 15/16 and then my training moved towards a bodybuilding esq split until i was about 17. Now i train for strength and explosiveness (so i incorporate some Westside barbell methods into my training e.g. accommodating resistance from bands).

My diet is half decent but it could be better... i will focus on this aspect more thoroughly whilst on cycle as i personally believe diet is the most important part of gaining weigh/strength (at least as a natural, although I'm sure the same applies).

I am going to get my bloodworm done prior to the cycle, but how often would you recommend doing it whilst on/during pct. Obviously cash is an issue, but I'm keen to do this safely and properly so if i have to spend more i will.

Thanks again.

running hcg while in pct is counter productive.. hcg is suppresive in nature..

you stop hcg the day before you start pct..

you need clomid at 50mg ed for 4 weeks in pct..

again, I DO NOT CONDONE THE USE OF STEROIDS AT YOUR AGE

3J said:

running hcg while in pct is counter productive.. hcg is suppresive in nature..

you stop hcg the day before you start pct..

you need clomid at 50mg ed for 4 weeks in pct..

again, I DO NOT CONDONE THE USE OF STEROIDS AT YOUR AGE

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Agreed

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