First cycle in 6 years tren, anadrol, test

31yo 5'8" 185lbs some body fat. 6 pack not much definition. I had a knee replacement almost 3 years ago and got lazy for awhile. I'm not sure about the ug lab. All they have is liquid oral or injectable anadrol. Can we say lab names? Oo this will be my 4th cycle. I'm in no hurry I wanna do it right. Diet, supplements everything. So input will be appreciated! This is what I'm thinking.

Test cyp 500mg wk
anadrol 50mg eod
tren ace 50mg eod.
12 week cycle weeks 1 thru 3 just test 4 thru 9 drol 4 thru 12 tren. Will nolvadex be ok for pct? Should I start before the cycles over? Input please! I know the risk and thanks for the warnings but I won't listen. Any good mass diets? Supplements? Thanks guys

sounds like a decent plan and solid cycle bro, welcome to MuscleChemistry also. If it was me though I would use the drol in the beginning maybe, but i see what your doing in adding it in when the test cyp starts kicking in, so yeah looks solid, i would keep an anti-e and anti-p on hand.

And just eat like an animal bro

I feel stupid... But before a mass cycle I start "practice eating" rice cakes, fruit, ect. I think it helps because the eating is the hardest part for me. What anti-e and p would you suggest? Can we say ug names on here? This 75mg liquid oral and 100mg injectable drol has me scratching my head.

Jakeywontoo said:

I feel stupid... But before a mass cycle I start "practice eating" rice cakes, fruit, ect. I think it helps because the eating is the hardest part for me. What anti-e and p would you suggest? Can we say ug names on here? This 75mg liquid oral and 100mg injectable drol has me scratching my head.

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never heard of injectable drol, and dont know why one would even want to inject it rather then take it oraly, and we dont get into nameing labs bro, brings nothing but trouble unless its human grade stuff then lab names are fine, but when we start mentioning under ground labs then its like listing the source himself

That's why I didn't throw it out there. I don't get the drol either. Why bother mixing it? Everything but that seems legit. I haven't heard any complaints. Maybe you get more out of it those ways I dunno.

Jakeywontoo said:

That's why I didn't throw it out there. I don't get the drol either. Why bother mixing it? Everything but that seems legit. I haven't heard any complaints. Maybe you get more out of it those ways I dunno.

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yeah i dont know either,lol but hey if it works then fuck it right!

injectable drol woud be better because it is more potent then pills...just like injectable dbol but ive never heard of injectable drol but that doesnt mean its not out there

honestly if first cycle in 6 years i would have done just test but maybe higher than what a normal person would do...your body chemistry has changed over the years and you need to see all over again how you react...

i've seen inj drol/dbol combos and inj tne/dbo/drol...never used yet myself...just sounds excellent but painful

irish_2003 said:

honestly if first cycle in 6 years i would have done just test but maybe higher than what a normal person would do...your body chemistry has changed over the years and you need to see all over again how you react...

i've seen inj drol/dbol combos and inj tne/dbo/drol...never used yet myself...just sounds excellent but painful

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I agree. I think 300mg of test a week is all you need. You can only grow so much muscle so fast. Steroids are just a switch. Once it's flipped on, it's on. The rest is diet, training and sleep. The Drol may help with 10+ lbs of water weight, but you need to get used to just training and eating first.

I'm not going to critique too much, but I'd suggest going with drol at the beginning for around 6-7 weeks then extending the whole cycle to 16 weeks and running the tren weeks 3-11. Other than that, it all looks good.

Thanks for the input. Even if I don't agree your opinions are appreciated. The drol has me nervous/excited. I have my calories around 3,500 a day. 60 grams of protein x3 then 30-45 x3. I've switched to muscle milk light with whole milk. I have a pretty physical job that involves alot of climbing so I've stopped the cardio. As of yesterday I'm still 5'8" 187lbs. I haven't check my bf% but imagine it's around 20%. My goals are pretty straight forward. Get fucking big! Am I eating enough?

Big should I wait for the test to kick in or go ahead with the drol?

Jakeywontoo said:

Big should I wait for the test to kick in or go ahead with the drol?

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normally people use orals to kickstart the first 4-6 weeks...depending on your goals and patience levels you can run them on the back half of your cycle instead of at the front

just a good old test and deca cycle would be great for ya...

test 300mg per week
deca 300mg per week

run it for 10-12 weeks....novadex is fine for PCT...this cylce shouldnt be to harsh on ya..but I bet if the diet and training is on point you will grow just fine

All ready seeing slight gains. Still the same weight wise tho. Some one made a comment that my face looks bigger out of the blue this morning lol. Very noticable strength gains tho. The inject drol burns like biatch!

I'm new to the site but very familiar with gear. i watched and listened to you guys on this site for a little bit & im very much looking forward to getting more info, even more then i have now, thanks. as for you jakeywontoo, as the big man Presser just stated about liquid d-bol your referring to, he was on point with everything he said, very nice explanation presser & i hope i can help a little as well. i am getting ready to start another cycle myself this week of, cyp, tren suspension & kick start with a-bombs. i will tell you jakey that my last cycle was kick started with the same d-bol your referring to and if I'm not mistaken, and excuse me if i am, but its not an injectable d-bol, there is not an injectable d-bol from my 15yrs experience. i have few pro friends out here in California that told me there is NO SUCH thing as injectable d-bol its just oral, (DO NOT INJECT IT, bad idea!) a lot of UGL's suspend it for transportation and packaging & people that trust themselves a lot will make it at home cause its that easy & its cheaper then making it into compressed form as tablets. its an oral and i actually took one eyedropper 1hr pre workout, and i will tell you this jakey, the results were fantastic, actually a little more noticeable then the oral form we are all used to. we all know everybody reacts different to gear for instance, i have friends that can't even look at tren without wanting to hit somebody, myself, well lets just say, I myself believe that Tren is a gift from the gods and will be part of every single cycle and ive never had one single side from i tren, not even night sweats, nothing. now back to your liquid D-Bol, the only downside to it from my experience jakey is that it taste like total dogshit, totally nasty as its made with 180 proof everclear dude. now, if you can handle the taste its a very small price to pay for the results but i will also say this man, if you let it sit under your tongue for to long, it will feel like its totally burning a hole right through the bottom of your mouth, for real kid but then again, easy way around that is, don't let it sit under there for to long and your good… liquid d-bol was great for me, this cycle its back to oral a bombs for me though

ooops, i posted to late jakeywontoo….read my post about your injectable d-bol man cause like my post says, i have some very old school pros as well as new school and the injectable d-bol is actually just an oral that is put under tongue but then again, maybe you got something top of the line, top secret, via, fib stuff that know body has heard of but with my years experience man, never heard of or seen inject bale d-bol. i would seriously look into that even more further then you already have to make sure your not injecting an oral, that may not work out good in the long run man, just sayin. i hope something i said helps you out man

i would never use it but their is injectable dianabol, the old Reforvit-B was injectable or oral, and some guys prefer one method over the other injectable or oral due to avoiding the 2nd pass through the liver,

and this thread is old as dirt lol,