Ive been running 200 masteron e, 750 test c, and 200 of tren now and my levels are through the roof. Dr just popped a test on me and im going for blood work in 3 weeks to continue my trt. Think my levels will be down in 3 weeks. At least normal range. Ive stopped cold turkey with the mast and test so they will drop the most. Upped the tren and igf to compensate.
think my test levels will be down in 3 weeks
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Millennial Monster
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HackTwat
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I have been researching this for you since we talked about it the other day. From what I can gather, 6 weeks is gonna be the best time for it to clear down to normal levels. The half lives of the multiple shots have to be broken down and cleared. At 3 weeks, it will more than likely only be reduced by 25%, but at that point it will begin reducing at a rate of another 10% per week. Which means a reduction of 25% at week 3, 30-35% at week 4, 40-45% at week 5 and so on. Some people don't clear out that fast either. Some studies only showed a 25% reduction from supraphysiological doses at 6 weeks!! You may benefit from a good excuse to miss that appointment and reschedule 2 weeks later brother!!
fstr03svtcobra
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Yeah dude you're pretty much fucked.
Also, if your doc is somewhat competent he's going to see that your prolactin is sky high and tren usually lowers people's hdl (very very rough estimate from lots of blood work that I have seen) 1-2 points per week. So you're going to be a mess with also high test. He might drop you. BUT if you came in with slightly high test and told him you were taking a test booster and everything else looked normal, he might just retest you later and give you a warning.
Also, why is your doc surprise testing you? This isn't the NCAA... he works for you. Tell him you can't or postpone it somehow.
But if it were me, I'd be completely open with your doctor. If you think he will freak and has no knowledge of AAS or basic endocrinology, then time to get a new doctor. Being honest with your doctor is extremely important. Health is far more important than anything else.
Also, if your doc is somewhat competent he's going to see that your prolactin is sky high and tren usually lowers people's hdl (very very rough estimate from lots of blood work that I have seen) 1-2 points per week. So you're going to be a mess with also high test. He might drop you. BUT if you came in with slightly high test and told him you were taking a test booster and everything else looked normal, he might just retest you later and give you a warning.
Also, why is your doc surprise testing you? This isn't the NCAA... he works for you. Tell him you can't or postpone it somehow.
But if it were me, I'd be completely open with your doctor. If you think he will freak and has no knowledge of AAS or basic endocrinology, then time to get a new doctor. Being honest with your doctor is extremely important. Health is far more important than anything else.
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Changed insurance and now they wont pay for nurse injection where as the previous insurance did and wouldnt pay for testosterone for self injection. So im switching now to self injection because new insurance will pay for it but nurse said that im due for a yearly checkup in order to get the self injections. My hdl is low. Im not sure what all he will test for but I do know he def. Knows his stuff. Thats his main point of study. I may just wait to schedule an appointment at 6 weeks. See where everything is at that point. Going to continue with the tren and igf and see where it goes. I will probably tell him ive been giving myself injections from the time I stopped my nurse visits.
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fstr03svtcobra
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You should probably care more about your blood numbers.
Metal85
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HELL, that would be a good number for my buddy!!! Maybe he'll be ok....
lol try to tell that to the doctor as they look at you as if you spend your days punching kittens in the face...
fstr03svtcobra
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I know I'm always on your case about bloodwork man, but your lipids aren't going to improve while you are taking tren. No fucking way.
Lol. Well they improved by a few points untill I upped the tren. But that wasnt enough anyway. Im gonna start slamming fish oil, niacin, and red yeast rice and hope they improve a little. They wont be anywhere close to normal I know that. My carb cycle has really helped my triglycerides though. They are back to normal bit everything else is shit.
fstr03svtcobra
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Do you come off ever?
Oh yeah. I come off everything after a cycle except for test. 300 a week on that for trt and cruising. Came off last time all the way down to just trt which was 300 every 2 weeks for 3 months. After this cycle im goimg to make sure I get lipids back in check and I dont think ill touch winni again for a while. Thats what originally killed it or dbol one.
I'm assuming test c is cypionate? Cypionate ester is 7-10 days. I've had blood tests surprised on me many times in the last 15 years. They sometimes would catch me the day after an inject which obviously will show as sky high. Doctors who actually know what they are doing know that they can't take the reading the day after a shot as the real level. The others, masteron and tren will not show on your test so they can be continued, and a side "benefit" for many—including me—tren will cause the testosterone reading to be lower if it is continued while the testosterone is coming down. So.. to know where you'll actually be, you have to know how many shots of 750mg/week you've been on, especially if you've been taking it all at once. Your level will be much higher if taken at a literal 750mg at once. If you distributed it into 2-3 injects each week, you'll have a lower peak level. I'd assume you probably took it all at once, and if that's the case, your level may be too high to come down enough into the "normal" range in time. You might have a chance if you were distributing the shots throughout the week.
Usually between 2 shots of cyp per week. Ive experimented with both one shot and 2 but because of everything I was taken I jad to start distributing it out through the week to take it all. He has done this once before but I kinda knew it was coming and jumped the gun anyway with 400 a week and after 2 weeks my levels droped to 1300. He said It was high and I must be sensitive to injections lol. If I can get around that it will be ok.
The docs that did this to me were only looking out for their own asses. They CTA because they say they have to justify to the DEA why they have you on whatever dosage they are giving you. Again, those who are knowledgeable about the whole thing know that 1) the government really doesn't care, and 2) justification can be simply that the patient feels better and is healthier on a higher dose even though the test shows high.
Most doctors don't have any knowledge about AAS and only have a rudimentary knowledge of endocrinology if they are general practitioners. Even most endocrinologists specialize in a part of their field. One endo that I went to acted like he knew what he was talking about, but he wouldn't give anything higher than a 150mg/week dosage and flat out told me he was covering his ass because he had been sued by a client who had a higher dosage then had some kind of medical trouble afterwards. Found out later that the guy only specialized in diabetes and the pancreas. Only one of all the doctors I have seen in 15 years had in-depth knowledge of AAS, estrogen aromatization control, etc. Sadly, he stopped his practice to go teach at a medical school so I had to find a new doc. The rest would have freaked and dropped me if I had told them I had cycled any kind of AAS.
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