Pro-hormones/Designer steroids

[Zeus]

I've alot of knowledge when it comes to these 2. I started using PH/DS about 7 to 8 years ago and I gotta say that I got some insane results. Halodrol and Havoc are prob my 2 favorite that made it past the 1st ban. 1 andro and M1T were just nuts. I got great results fro everyone that ever used except for the PH/DS called the one. Fckn horrible. Just curious how many of you have used or considered using PH/DS????? If so what and how did it work for you. I will answer any question any of you have. These prods really work so don't knock it if you have never tried them...

 

[nuknuk]

I have done M-Drol and liked it.

 

[Lightsout]

I have done H-drol and Havco.. and I like them both.. But H-drol was the shit !!!!

 

[The Dude]

I absolutely love Boladrol. It makes me dry and tight, but also puts weight on pretty well as well as make me very strong. I like M1T as well.

 

[bigghorn]

Hey Zeus what type a dosage you used for such great results? What's ph/ds? And any certain brands preferred? You said questions bro .lol this is for everyone reading not just me . Thanks

 

[neonlizard]

One of my workout buddies took Halotest 25 for 8 weeks and gained like 18 lbs, got alot bigger and stronger (I designed a diet for him aiming for 3500+ cals a day and a straight mass building workout) but man did it disappear fast. Like 2 months later he might have kept about 2 lbs of it. Tried to get him on some Clomid to get things back in order with his test but he didn't wanna buy em from me, lol. I'm guessing this was the culprit. They were pretty dry gains which impressed me the most, anyway. I've thought about doing something similar if I could find a way to keep maybe 50% of the gains long term or at least past cutting for the summer. Whatcha know about that Zeus? Keeping any gains you will make from PH that is. I likely know what you're going to say, but I'm curious to hear.

 

[landonm5]

M1T was crazy! great gains great strength, but for ME worst sides i ever had! KNots behind my nipples which i still have, lower back pains, and lethargic. But yes definitely worked! But i rather just do the real deal!

 

[exbeanpole]

Ph's are all I've ever used so far. For me right now they're are just easier for several reason mainly getting gear from a source I trust has delayed my transition to AAS's. I've run everything except Superdrol. I've had the most success with Ultradrol and D-zine (Superdrol's little brother) so far. I also really like Trenazone, (transdermal Dienolone with high bioavailability ) which is a great stacker because it's a non-methly.

 

[sarcoplasm]

Liquidz's (Cybersol) M1T Is the best oral I ever used. That includes Unimed Anadrol......yes you read that correctly. I feel sorry for anyone who dosent try it.

 

[Zeus]

Hey Zeus what type a dosage you used for such great results? What's ph/ds? And any certain brands preferred? You said questions bro .lol this is for everyone reading not just me . Thanks

I'll have to get back to you on dosages. I have them all written down but I can't fckn find them. I awlays liked competetive edge labs. Prob the best PH/DS company I ever used. PH stands for prohormone and DS stands for designer steroid. A PH is a prohormone of a actual aas where a DS is a novel compound all of it's own.

MDROL- 4 weeks awesome gains but can have harhs sides 20/20/30/30mg

Pheraplex- 4 weeks great for cutting and bulking can be very harsh if proper cycle assist supps aren't taken 20/20/30/30mg

xtereme tren-1 of my faves incredible strength gains and hits you fast safe for your liver since it's not metlylated 90/90/120/120mg

This is all I can remember for now. I will find my notes and post the rest

 

[Zeus]

One of my workout buddies took Halotest 25 for 8 weeks and gained like 18 lbs, got alot bigger and stronger (I designed a diet for him aiming for 3500+ cals a day and a straight mass building workout) but man did it disappear fast. Like 2 months later he might have kept about 2 lbs of it. Tried to get him on some Clomid to get things back in order with his test but he didn't wanna buy em from me, lol. I'm guessing this was the culprit. They were pretty dry gains which impressed me the most, anyway. I've thought about doing something similar if I could find a way to keep maybe 50% of the gains long term or at least past cutting for the summer. Whatcha know about that Zeus? Keeping any gains you will make from PH that is. I likely know what you're going to say, but I'm curious to hear.

The reason he lost damn near everything was with PH/DS proper PCT is more important than the cycle itself. Nolva or clomid or both MUST be used with proper diet and post cycle supps. Without doing a proper PCT you can kiss all your gains goodbye and you will be shut down hard!!!!

 

[Zeus]

Ph's are all I've ever used so far. For me right now they're are just easier for several reason mainly getting gear from a source I trust has delayed my transition to AAS's. I've run everything except Superdrol. I've had the most success with Ultradrol and D-zine (Superdrol's little brother) so far. I also really like Trenazone, (transdermal Dienolone with high bioavailability ) which is a great stacker because it's a non-methly.

Always wanted to try transdermal tren. I actualy like extreme tren a little more than tran ace for quick strength and weight gain. D-zine was decent but whatever they took out of it to make it safer than superdrol really took the balls out of it. I loved stacking Xtren with Havoc. Super lean hard as nails gains.

 

[exbeanpole]

One of my workout buddies took Halotest 25 for 8 weeks and gained like 18 lbs, got alot bigger and stronger (I designed a diet for him aiming for 3500+ cals a day and a straight mass building workout) but man did it disappear fast. Like 2 months later he might have kept about 2 lbs of it. Tried to get him on some Clomid to get things back in order with his test but he didn't wanna buy em from me, lol. I'm guessing this was the culprit. They were pretty dry gains which impressed me the most, anyway. I've thought about doing something similar if I could find a way to keep maybe 50% of the gains long term or at least past cutting for the summer. Whatcha know about that Zeus? Keeping any gains you will make from PH that is. I likely know what you're going to say, but I'm curious to hear.

Zeus couldn't be more right when it comes to the importance of a good pct! I'd think with a solid pct you'd be able retain more than half of your gains.

 

[exbeanpole]

Always wanted to try transdermal tren. I actualy like extreme tren a little more than tran ace for quick strength and weight gain. D-zine was decent but whatever they took out of it to make it safer than superdrol really took the balls out of it. I loved stacking Xtren with Havoc. Super lean hard as nails gains.

How'd you like Superdrol? Was lethargy a problem? I was kind of thinking about adding it at the start of a test/deca cycle as a kicker this summer. Dosed at 10/20/30/30. I hear lethargy is an issue with SD which is my biggest concern because my job requires physical labor in the summer heat.

 

[Zeus]

How'd you like Superdrol? Was lethargy a problem? I was kind of thinking about adding it at the start of a test/deca cycle as a kicker this summer. Dosed at 10/20/30/30. I hear lethargy is an issue with SD which is my biggest concern because my job requires physical labor in the summer heat.

Never got letargic from superdrol at all. I do know people who have though. Really depends on the person, just like most things. Superdrol is fckn awesome. I put on between 15 to 20 lbs everytime I ran superdrol. Does make you hold a little water but pretty solid gains. With proper PCT I kept prob between 65 to 75% of the gains with no shut down. Thanx to proper PCT!!!!!

 

[exbeanpole]

Superdrol is fckn awesome. I put on between 15 to 20 lbs everytime I ran superdrol. Does make you hold a little water but pretty solid gains. With proper PCT I kept prob between 65 to 75% of the gains with no shut down. Thanx to proper PCT!!!!!

Awesome! This what I'm hearing from everyone that has run SD. And if I run like I'm planning I could always drop it if lethargy becomes a real issue and continue with the test and deca.

 

[neonlizard]

The reason he lost damn near everything was with PH/DS proper PCT is more important than the cycle itself. Nolva or clomid or both MUST be used with proper diet and post cycle supps. Without doing a proper PCT you can kiss all your gains goodbye and you will be shut down hard!!!!

That's what I figured. Thanks for the confirmation though!

 

[neonlizard]

Liquidz's (Cybersol) M1T Is the best oral I ever used. That includes Unimed Anadrol......yes you read that correctly. I feel sorry for anyone who dosent try it.

I've had some of this sitting in my fridge for quite some time but I'm too chicken to take it. I got some clomid, nolvadex and even GnRH and an anti progestin just in case and I'm still kinda scared of the stuff. Am I being silly? I've def read some horror stories but it might have had to do with not being prepared. Comments?

 

[sarcoplasm]

I've had some of this sitting in my fridge for quite some time but I'm too chicken to take it. I got some clomid, nolvadex and even GnRH and an anti progestin just in case and I'm still kinda scared of the stuff. Am I being silly? I've def read some horror stories but it might have had to do with not being prepared. Comments?

No need to be scared my friend just proceed with the same caution you would any other powerful oral. I will say though that the cybersol M1T didnt give me an letharygy sides like the other M1T ive used and it needs to be dosed a little higher than the other M1t Ive used but It is truly aewsome. My blood panel is fine btw

 

[neonlizard]

No need to be scared my friend just proceed with the same caution you would any other powerful oral. I will say though that the cybersol M1T didnt give me an letharygy sides like the other M1T ive used and it needs to be dosed a little higher than the other M1t Ive used but It is truly aewsome. My blood panel is fine btw

Right on. Not sure if I should start a new thread for this, but in theory if I were to use this stuff, how would this sound:
25mg/day split into 12.5mg twice per day for 2 weeks. Take milk thistle and a b-complex for liver care since this stuff is pretty hepa toxic like any other methyl. (other suggestions for liver health?) Keep the nolvadex on hand just in case and the anti-p and run clomid at 50mg/day for 4 weeks after along with the GnRH (single dose of course). It looks pretty solid to me but I've never done anything like this before as I always thought I was too young but at 30 I feel like I've waited long enough