Prohormone dosage that doesn't suppress own test

[Stonebridge]

Has anybody tried using a ph dosage that doesn't overly suppress your natural test, just compliments it? And was it effective?

Not looking for a test booster!



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[Presser]

welcome to MC first off, and I'm not too versed in Pro Hormones so i wouldn't know, so ill bump this up for someone who knows about this stuff, and what PH in particular are talking about

 

[Stonebridge]

Many thanks for the welcome. I'm looking at epi mainly but I'm not a stranger to injections so I'd be considering test also!?

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[HackTwat]

Welcome to MC!! I know there's a few guys well versed in PH here and with epi. Someone will chime in brother. I haven't ran any PH myself

 

[csuperman]

i would assume that any dose may affect your natural test levels, again i am not an expert on this but if you start adding exogenous hormones to the body it does send a signal that it no longer needs to product its own.

now i am sure a lower dose would obviously affect you less than a super hero amount. but i have no personal experiance with the product you are asking about.

 

[Presser]

Many thanks for the welcome. I'm looking at epi mainly but I'm not a stranger to injections so I'd be considering test also!?

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yeah we have had a few epi posts here in this forum not long ago, so if u run a search in this forum i think you might find some good info and maybe what doses they ran and such, but as csuperman said, they will still shut you down at a certain amount or maybe at any amount

 

[Stonebridge]

Thanks for welcome Austin.

Cheers csuperman, I wonder whether cycling it through the week and not on certain days would encourage natural
Test to recover and then add exogenous hormones to of small amounts on top!? I suppose you'd need to know your own suppression rate for that and I'm guessing that'd be difficult!

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[Presser]

Thanks for welcome Austin.

Cheers csuperman, I wonder whether cycling it through the week and not on certain days would encourage natural
Test to recover and then add exogenous hormones to of small amounts on top!? I suppose you'd need to know your own suppression rate for that and I'm guessing that'd be difficult!

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i think you would need to take something like hcg to help keep your natural test up so long as ur PH doses were small enough, i know with testosterone guys can take hcg through cycle and not have issues with coming off testosterone and their natural test was just fine, but that was at minimal doses like 200mg a week, and on top of that I didn't really believe them as i always thought once you take exogenous testosterone your natty shuts down period, but agin i could be wrong brutha

 

[Stonebridge]

i think you would need to take something like hcg to help keep your natural test up so long as ur PH doses were small enough, i know with testosterone guys can take hcg through cycle and not have issues with coming off testosterone and their natural test was just fine, but that was at minimal doses like 200mg a week, and on top of that I didn't really believe them as i always thought once you take exogenous testosterone your natty shuts down period, but agin i could be wrong brutha

Cheers presser I'll do some research with that and I'm sure I'll have more questions!!

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[fstr03svtcobra]

I don't think there is any dosage worth taking that wouldn't do that. If you are going to take steroids - which prohormones are- it's something you will have to deal with.

Some more bad news: hcg will only maintain about 15% of a man's original natty levels. It just mimics lh in the body and isn't extraordinarily successful. Although, running it will allow a faster recovery because it prevents testicular shrinkage and does maintain some test. So if you run any cycles you should realize that a potential side effect is never being the same no matter what you take or how bullet proof your "pct" is.

 

[IronJulius]

I don't think there is any dosage worth taking that wouldn't do that. If you are going to take steroids - which prohormones are- it's something you will have to deal with.

Some more bad news: hcg will only maintain about 15% of a man's original natty levels. It just mimics lh in the body and isn't extraordinarily successful. Although, running it will allow a faster recovery because it prevents testicular shrinkage and does maintain some test. So if you run any cycles you should realize that a potential side effect is never being the same no matter what you take or how bullet proof your "pct" is.

Im so glad your part of MC

 

[fstr03svtcobra]

Im so glad your part of MC

Thanks brother! This is the only forum I post on now because there is no other place like it!

 

[Presser]

Im so glad your part of MC

agreeeeeed!

 

[HackTwat]

Im so glad your part of MC

I second that!! Very knowledgeable member....

 

[RagingWhoreMoan]

Has anybody tried using a ph dosage that doesn't overly suppress your natural test, just compliments it? And was it effective?

Not looking for a test booster!



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So as was already said any amount of hormones being added to your body will suppress Test to some degree.

Epi is a designer steroid. It is already active.

Why are you choosing Epi?
What are your goals?

I have read about Epi being used for a pulse cycle.
I also understand Epi to be very dry and doesn't aromatize.
I have even read logs of Epi being used for gyno correction similar to the way Nolva is used in this regard.

Typical dosing is 40mg for 4-6 weeks.

 

[fstr03svtcobra]

So as was already said any amount of hormones being added to your body will suppress Test to some degree.

Epi is a designer steroid. It is already active.

Why are you choosing Epi?
What are your goals?

I have read about Epi being used for a pulse cycle.
I also understand Epi to be very dry and doesn't aromatize.
I have even read logs of Epi being used for gyno correction similar to the way Nolva is used in this regard.

Typical dosing is 40mg for 4-6 weeks.

Epi gave me gyno. I don't think there are many pure epi products anymore. Every one I have tried has been wet to a degree. Don't get me wrong epi is great, but just not IMO how it is described. Under time and temperature, methylepithio (epi) converts to the pheraplex hormone. This could be the cause of the wetness or it could just be that epi isn't as wet as it is made out to be. I've heard that the first bottles of rpn havoc produced way back in 2003 that were clear with a red lid were incredibly potent and dry, but I never got to try one.

 

[RagingWhoreMoan]

I have read about the phera conversion.. Although I feel like this were more common place guys would attempt to use a bastardized Epi to circumvent legal issues or like a DIY version of heat converting Epi

This also makes me a little wary for my upcoming Epi/Tren Cycle (Although I have all supports on hand)

 

[Buffalo]

Anything exogenous testosterone coming into your body will suppress production. Even true HRT doses which I get is only 100ml every two weeks, that is nothing but it suppresses you. Yeah I take about 10x that amount.

Honestly bro, as dumb as this sounds after the ton of stuff I put in my body, I wouldn't touch a PH. The only negative side effect and where I had health issues I ever had was from a very popular PH.

 

[fstr03svtcobra]

Anything exogenous testosterone coming into your body will suppress production. Even true HRT doses which I get is only 100ml every two weeks, that is nothing but it suppresses you. Yeah I take about 10x that amount.

Honestly bro, as dumb as this sounds after the ton of stuff I put in my body, I wouldn't touch a PH. The only negative side effect and where I had health issues I ever had was from a very popular PH.

$10 says it was superdrol.

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I have read about the phera conversion.. Although I feel like this were more common place guys would attempt to use a bastardized Epi to circumvent legal issues or like a DIY version of heat converting Epi

This also makes me a little wary for my upcoming Epi/Tren Cycle (Although I have all supports on hand)

Haha I'd watch the fuck out or just run one. Idk why you would need both since they are both strong by themselves unless you are already massive.

 

[Buffalo]

$10 says it was superdrol.

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