any advice will help

[2fastnova]

i used my first cycle ever of gear from a reputable person. 20 d-bol tabs and 2 ml 300mg each of test en 1 300mg of dec i placed gear in rear upper left check. after 3 days i had a knot and could barely sit down it hurt when i walked i have been taking ibproffin,messaging it,taking real hot showers, and using a heat pad since thursday it feel like its been going down slow but knot still there pain decreasing. there is no head or pus oozing from site. is this to much gear for a virgin cheek or could something gone wrong. ive had some advice but advice is like cash you can never have to much.

 

[jaywooly]

So you shot 3 ml's of gear in your cheek? Yeah, probably too much oil in one place. PLus, you should shoot it in very slowly, I know when I began I used to shoot it fast I'd I'd almost always knot up, just as you described.

Yeah, probably too much oil and you shot it too fast. I should go away in about a week.

Okay, I'll bite. Does your whole cycle consist of only 3 mls and 20 dbol tabs?

 

[jaywooly]

Plus, sometimes test just hurts, no matter what.

 

[2fastnova]

eight weeks of test and dec at said levels with d-bol 20 mg m-f for 6 weeks

 

[NAIR]

Well everyones body is different. I know that my first 6 weeks of injections consisted of 3ml each check, each week (with a 20 gauge). I never had any problems. At first I was sore but that all goes away of coarse. I always made damn sure to massage the site for at least a couple minutes. Are you doing this? Perhaps your gear is too concentrated for your virgin cheeks too.

 

[2fastnova]

no ill be honest i jabbed that needle in and put all 3 ml in. i didnt know i had to message it. and went to the gym.

 

[NAIR]

try it bud, I'll bet that solves it for ya

 

[2fastnova]

what other tips might be helpful to reduce future pain.

 

[mcgaret]

some gear hurts like hell and some is painless.

 

[jaywooly]

As I mentioned, shoot it slowly. Also as said, massage it or put pressure on it right after. Lastly you can hit a hot shower.

What I like to do is workout the area of my body I inject. Though, I hear some say the exact opposite.

 

[2fastnova]

i did exactly what you said but also split up 2 2ml 1 dec 1 test on monday and 1 ml of test on thursday. I used my left quad heated oil with blow dryer and messaged. After i then took a hot shower and then mesagged in in the shower. It started to knot up later but is very toleratable and the pain was no where near the pain in my a$$ :moon:. So overall i say hell to the people that say dont message it :saywhat: jaywooly and Sandieago im with you .. its also tuesday and the pain decreased used heating pad too, like some people told me, and now im not walking gimpped or anything. So i have to say that was great advice. :thumbsup: THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE GREAT ADVICE !!!!!!!

 

[saudades]

For those who have just started using, you are going to get sore each time for a while until the body gets used to having the stuff put in there (and if you put a lot in at one time). I used to get so sore I couldn't sit without pain probably for about 4-5 months. Everytime I shot in a new location--pain again. The pain gradually started to lessen each time.

 

[mikeswift]

shooting slow is smart. massaging is great, the hot shower helps but even better you can also heat the oil a little before shooting, it should help immensely. I put my pin in a cup of very hot water before shooting and I never have any problems since i started doing that

 

[down2kill]

I used to heat my vial before withdrawing it. i think this is the safest method, just run it under or soak it in warm water.

 

[NAIR]

I tried doing this for faster injects because I use a 25 gauge but I noticed no difference at all. don't really understand why, if heated above room temp, it would help prevent lumps and pains though. Anyone care to elaborate please?

 

[Stickler*]

I tried doing this for faster injects because I use a 25 gauge but I noticed no difference at all. don't really understand why, if heated above room temp, it would help prevent lumps and pains though. Anyone care to elaborate please?

it comes down down to the basic concept of viscosity... think of oil in an engine... the hotter it gets, the more liquid it gets... the warmer, the thinner...

just be careful not to heat up your oils to much as to change any composition in your gear...

most people will never get thier stuff that warm.. but the thinner the juice, the easier the inject... pure and simple...

the more 'viscus' the oil, the thinner it is, the easier it will 'seep' into the muscle tissue... it shoudln't affect the time of absorption.. but still... i think that's the basic concept.

 

[NAIR]

right, I understand viscosity (from highschool physics ) but how does this speed the up absorption process?

 

[NAIR]

Oh, I should of read your post more carefully. Sorry bud!

 

[down2kill]

my experience

your body is around 98 degrees the oil cooler when it hist your muscle tissues in a cold state it starts to crystalize to the fibers, if the stuff is already warm or close to the tem of the body it will disperse more freely thinning in out with the muscle fibers. have you had a cold penicillian shot, the military used to give them in basic and mine hurt for 7 days, i once did 2 mls of test suspension warmed in the vial and it only hurt for a few hours.thats the difference, the body will accept the "viscosity" if you will if the temp is that of the core or close to it, anything cold has to be less affective for dispersion.

all in all just trust us, it works better. room temp is an average 69-74 degrees, works for some but most prefer in warmer.

I did injections in the middle east when i was deployed there and none of them hurt ever, my shit was hot when i poked the vial it always made that "shhh" sound, trying to tell me to be quiet..lol

i never had any soreness other than muscle pain from lifting(curling sandbags ) or fatigue, when my gear was warmed by the heat at about 102-120degrees.

: for the record any stories may be true and may be false, if you really wanna know test my blood, but you can have it when im dead. my disclaimer.. im gov property.. for now.uke:

 

[NAIR]

good post, thanks for your info