Domestic or international?

[BigBastard]

Sweedish health care sucks if you have a serious illness. The wait times for surgury are herrendous to say the least. Not only that, you don't have the competition of business, innovation, etc.

I can assure you I´m not a socialist either, and you do have a point about the waiting times. Now however the market has opened for private healthcare options. I´m a proud shareholder of a private clinic for worldclass cancer treatment. Innovation is also worldclass from Sweden, the best inventors make their company own the innovation. That way you can make money from it.

I think the best case is when everyone is able to get decent healthcare, and for those with savings you can get even better care from the private sector.

Just my opinion...

 

[Local124bro]

I'm not a socialist, can you tell?

Bump that! :thumbsup:

 

[Crazymank]

ill put one vote for international. I posted this somewhere else... But as far as i know, the internationals didnt get hit. So you will get your order sent. Vs. domestic... I dont know if the current domestics that are running ar not being ran by fed.

now, whether or not you get your order from international is a diffrent story. I think there will be a lot of packages that are coming from overseas being checked.

But.... I do know that when purchasing orals for instance, you can get them sent in a letter envolope, which looks very inconspicuous. and.. if you buy certain forms of test for instance, they come in packaging that looks like/ is labeled as plant food.

this limits your options, but its safer. make sure you ask the site to not give you vials, or you'll definately get a seisure.

the only thing to really worry about is payment and pick up. Payment is easy, there are lots of ways to make payments without giving your id.

but pick up is a little harder. Just figure out some way to have it shipped and dont use your home address.

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

Bump^^^^

 

[bigworm6]

what would be another address I could have it shipped to if not my home address? Preciate all the reply's

 

[vertigorocks]

find a house in the area that doesn't look run down, but has noone living at that address. That's all I can think of.

 

[vertigorocks]

I've never done this, nor do I know anyone that has. I have just heard people suggest this so I really have no idea if this works. I guess theoretically it could work, but I feel the post office would get suspicious about a package going to a house they never deliver to that seems empty.

 

[highside]

I'm not a socialist, can you tell?

I second that. I could never figure out why anyone would want the government run anything of importance. I do no think I can name anything that they run effective and efficient. They may make you think you are only paying $300 a year for health care but I promise you pay much more. It is just called taxes. If you have a good job and work hard you are more than likely paying for your healthcare and others also due to having even higher taxes.

 

[vertigorocks]

I just had this conversation tonight with my girlfriend. She heard a speech on a the Denmark health care system and over there you get healthcare, social security and education free; you actually get paid about 700 bucks a month to go to college. Sounds good right? It starts to sounds shitty when you realize about 70% of your paycheck goes to the government. It is great for people who are sick all the time or fall upon some misfortune, but it sucks for the guy/girl who gets out of school and for forty years nothing happens. You take home 30% of your paycheck and live a meager life. You do get your retirement paid for, but 2/3rds of your life what do you do? Work for everyone else. That may be fine for some, but not for others. You may get hurt, you may not. Life is a roll of the dice baby and you can't decided one way or the other. Someone's life here would suck there, but someones's life there could be better than anyone here. It is all in the hand you are dealt.

 

[dorian123]

find a house in the area that doesn't look run down, but has noone living at that address. That's all I can think of.

here's one that you might want to try...if she goes along with it

a buddy of mine (huge fucker at that) would have all his shit sent to his girl's house...I doubt anyone will question a 100lbs little girl about gear-now if they stalked...I mean staked the whole scene out they would see that she had a 300lb bf...and then raise some eyebrows

down side to the whole thing is your dragging your girl into the storyline and if shit hits the fan they will use that as leverage against you uke:

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

Your delivery person has been offered a REWARD for turning in suspicious packages or people.. If your package turns out to be illegal your delivery person makes money.. Trust me when I tell you they are looking at making extra money and look at all packages they deliver suspicously(sp).... Your a fool if you even attempt it anytime soon...

All Post offices have been sent/faxed letters that instruct all employee's to pay close attention to types, weights and location of packages. They should pay special close attention to it's destination and return address and any package that looks out of place or suspicious should be reported to the proper athorities...

I can't spell worth a shit, but now you know what I know...

 

[bigworm6]

wow....seems basically impossible to get anything now

 

[Spiderman]

Yeah, I would definitly not get it sent to my house. If you want, you can order a fake ID off of the net and then go get a box and the UPS Store or the FedEx store. Just make sure you register it under the fake name. I did that a long time ago when I first started ordering, but I'm not sure if it still works.

 

[dorian123]

Your delivery person has been offered a REWARD for turning in suspicious packages or people.. If your package turns out to be illegal your delivery person makes money.. Trust me when I tell you they are looking at making extra money and look at all packages they deliver suspicously(sp).... Your a fool if you even attempt it anytime soon...

All Post offices have been sent/faxed letters that instruct all employee's to pay close attention to types, weights and location of packages. They should pay special close attention to it's destination and return address and any package that looks out of place or suspicious should be reported to the proper athorities...

I can't spell worth a shit, but now you know what I know...

man how fucking stupid, they are giving rewards out now? :greedy:
I just ordered some b-12 from overseas...yeah I got it, but I wonder if they opened the package and all that stupid shit???
hell I'm gonna send some illegal crack to my enemies and then I'm gonna "tip" off the police so they get in trouble :thumbsup:

 

[Crazymank]

there has to be ways, we just need to look into them.

 

[bigworm6]

def. let me know when you come up with a good idea, my cycle is depending on it! lol

 

[saudades]

man how fucking stupid, they are giving rewards out now? :greedy:
I just ordered some b-12 from overseas...yeah I got it, but I wonder if they opened the package and all that stupid shit???
hell I'm gonna send some illegal crack to my enemies and then I'm gonna "tip" off the police so they get in trouble :thumbsup:

Every now and then, they do open international packages. When I ordered syntherol a while back, the package came through to me, but it had clearly been cut open and taped shut again.

 

[hardware]

Just received international. So far so good, unless they are waiting in the bushes for the right time.:uhoh:

 

[hardware]

Just curious to know which route would be safer to take these days, ordering domestic or internationally? Just purchasing bottles for a cycle, nothing big. And what precautions should you take...i.e-fake name on package, order small amount....

fake name on package and I heard that writing return to sender on package and not opening it for a couple days works. This is so that if anything happens you can say that you didnt order and you didnt get time to make it to post to drop it off in time. Anyone ever have the misfortune of testing this out?

 

[buschris]

shit, after what has happened to the UG labs right here, I'd say if you're going to order... go international. Domestic might actually be compromised.