ephedrine alkaloids

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bigf'ndude

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I am a big fan of the E/C/A stack, but I have one question.

I typically get the Ephedrine HCL (25 mg), which I like, but my question is, whether or not Ephedra Alkaloids (25 mg) are better, worse, or about the same.

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks
 
bigf'ndude said:
I am a big fan of the E/C/A stack, but I have one question.

I typically get the Ephedrine HCL (25 mg), which I like, but my question is, whether or not Ephedra Alkaloids (25 mg) are better, worse, or about the same.

Any information would be helpful.

Thanks

Below is a link to some interesting info on synthetic ephedrine and ephredra. As a side note, I do not believe that ephredra is legal for purchase as a result of the most recent ban. At this time, I believe it must be sold as a bronchodilator (Ephredrine HCL only) and usually includes the expectorant Guaifenesin, as well. I am pretty sure, but you might want to double check. Anyway here is the link.

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/EphedraandEphedrine.asp
 
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vertigorocks said:
I believe Ephadra has been banned since that pitcher collapsed and died almost a decade ago now.


it was made illegal, yes. but (much lesser known) then a judge over ruled that. It has not been challenged again yet.

bottom line, its legal still. no companies make it much anymore because its a liability - spend money to produce it and its made illegal again.
 
As far as I knew it was illegal. There was a law suit that made it legal again for a short time. That decision was then held up by a judge and was still legal. The FDA then appealed the ruling to a higher court in 2006. The judge upheld the FDA ban on Ephedra. As of now and as far as I know it is still banned. It is illegal in the US as of now. I wish it was still legal. I really liked the stackers.
 
tommy thompson banned it in '04 or there abouts; however, as recently as a year or so ago the ban was lifted. Clen is a whole lot better than ephedrine, but for the money? Who knows. Anyway, I get mine from a company called DMD pharmaceuticals--the price has gone up since the good old days before tommy got his paws ito the scene; the doseage available is, in theory, 12.5 mg of ephedrine w/ 200 mg of guaifensin, & it is marketed as it always was, as a bronchodilator. Since I seriously doubt anyone is really regulating seriously this side of the OTC market, who knows how much of whatever is in it. It doesn't light my fuse like those itty bitty white crosses that first came out from AST (these are considerably larger tabs).

Regardless of all that, here is how I understand ephedra/ephedrine: ephedra is the basic herb that ephedrine comes from, so a dose can not really be standardized beyond doubt; ephedrine hcl is the product made from the herb ephedra, &, again in theory, the dose should be standardized (but that's all in how much you trust the people making the stuff). As I see it, & I may see it inaccurately) an analogy would be the coca leaf vs powdered cocaine. And, once again, who knows what's been done to that g of coke before you got a hold of it. But, powdered cocaine can be a standardized dose as opposed to chewing on coca leaves.

If you are interested, do a couple of hits on the wikipedia: look up ephedrine & then look up meth amphetamine; I'm no chemistry major, just what I had to take to get into nsg school, but looking at the diagram, there is not a whole helluvalotta difference between the two molecularly. The atoms are arranged slightly different if I remember correctly & there is something different about a couple of the bonds, but, I have little doubt that one is a precursor to the other. Not that I care about that.
 
Is there anywhere online where you can still find the 25mg Ephedrine HCL tabs at a reasonable price? I dont see the blue packs OR the red packs in our neighborhood gas stations anymore. I would like to start E/C/A again just for the 'boost' and fat burning capabilities, any help? Someone PM me!
 
Southern Comfor said:
Is there anywhere online where you can still find the 25mg Ephedrine HCL tabs at a reasonable price? I dont see the blue packs OR the red packs in our neighborhood gas stations anymore. I would like to start E/C/A again just for the 'boost' and fat burning capabilities, any help? Someone PM me!

I'm pretty sure you can still get vasopro online. However, I believe the price went up quite a bit since the last ban.
 
Just ordered 100 tabs @ 25 mg; I think w/ international shipping they went for about $50. The blue & white boxes (that I can still get at the Circle K) are costing me that much to buy 48, & they are 12.5 mgs. I got an email telling me my order shipped today. Do a hit on ephedrineforsale.com. If & when I get my order, I'll let you know how it worked out.
 
its legal, i just got an email from a reliable compnay that says its back in stock and they sell it pure with no expectorant Guafinessin as well, ill look for the linkl and post it
 
i think i use to use somethng called dymedadrime extreme it was pure ephedrine
 
I believe it was called dymetradrine; it was marketed by a company out of Mississippi called AST. They were the best. Ultimate Orange by Next Nutrition was pretty good also.
 
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matthew said:
I believe it was called dymetradrine; it was marketed by a company out of Mississippi called AST. They were the best. Ultimate Orange by Next Nutrition was pretty good also.


yep that was it and ultimate orange was also good i remember that,lol
 
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