Just my experience, others will disagree but when I first started to use gear. I went on "only one" for six and eight weeks. I tried Winstrol at 500 to 1000mgs a week, eq with 400mgs to 800mgs a week and I did a Test cyp and suspension cycle all by themselves. What I found out is that test really kicked ass. I watched scale weight and with the eq and winstrol cycles my wieght fluctuated between two and five pounds. With Test my wieght went up and only up to 17 pounds. On another board some person who later became a scammer told me I was full of it not getting results from winnie by itself. He slammed me and said it was fake. I get all my vet supplies from the vet. The only thing winnie gave me is sore joints. I did these kind of one drug cycles about eight years ago when I was very new. Winnie and Eq need to be stacked for them to work FOR ME, others may be different. I am not speaking for everyone, just myself.