First Cycle Help Plz

[CokeRocks]

Hey guys, obviously i'm new here but I was hoping I could get some advice. Im about to do my first cycle and wanted some help. Im going with axio labs test E. I'd like to do 500mg a week and see how that feels for now. Im 30 yrs old, 5'9 and have been working about more vigorously for the past 4 years or so. I started to to this same cycle a little over a year ago but there was a problem with the gear and i never did it.

Its been a while since i did all my research and there are some things I dont remember that I was hoping I could get some help with. What pin sizes should I use for the different injection spots? Im gonna use nolva for a pct but i dont remember the amounts i should use and how often i should take it.

Any info would be greatly appreciated and im happy to provide any more info needed.

thanks

 

[saudades]

Do you have more in the way of stats? What is your weight and bodyfat, and what kind of goal are you expecting to get out of the cycle? Sounds like you may need to do some more research, but to answer some of your questions:

Pin size doesn't matter a whole lot when injecting. Some like a larger pin like 23g for all injects while others like 25g (like myself). Typically, you'll want to draw using an 18g, switch tip to a clean smaller gauge, then do the inject.

For nolva, the typical dosage is 40mg/day. Nolva is only an estrogen blocker, so you may also want clomid to help bring back your own test levels, dosage is usually 40-50mg/day for about four weeks.

500mg of test is a pretty good amount for a first cycle so that should certainly do you fine if that is what you want to do.

 

[CokeRocks]

ya sorry I thought I had posted my weight. Im at about 180 and 12% body fat. I researched the crap out out of all this before i decided to go with my first cycle. It would have already been the in the past but as stated before there was a problem with the gear. Ive talked to the rep and I have been assured all is well and I made another order. I just couldnt remember things like pins size and pct amounts. I knew i wanted 500mg test E split into twice a week. I didnt think i needed clomid for this amount but if you guys think i should take it , i can certainly do so.

 

[saudades]

Splitting up the dose into twice a week is good since it will maintain a more stable blood level of hormone.

Only clomid and HCG will raise your natural test levels back to normal, and 500mg is more than enough to shut you down, even if you only ran it 8 weeks. Clomid is run after the cycle for about 4 weeks at the dosage I mentioned, and HCG is commonly run during the cycle, about 500iu every 3 days, to keep your testes from shutting down so much in the first place--something good endocrinologists have suggested. Sure, not everyone needs clomid. It's hard to tell who is going to need it or not really, but for a first cycle for someone who doesn't suffer from low testosterone, it's a wise precaution to use at least that to make sure their natural levels are back up. Ultimately, the decision is up to you. We're here to help you make an informed decision.

What are your goals?

 

[mickdoo]

I would use 200 mg first few weeks and see how it goes. You can always up later. My first cycle I did 200mg of deca for 8 weeks and had great results, that was in 80's. Why do you think you need 500mg for your first time? Listen to the rest of what saudades says too,he knows what he is talking about. I am just always for using the least amount to get the desired results. More is not always better.IMO Since this is your first cycle, you need to see how your body responds. What if 500 mg gives you sore nipples. You can always add more. Start lower then add. Remember, though it takes a few weeks for gear to take effect. Patience

 

[CokeRocks]

My goals at the moment are short term untill I decide if using gear is something i want continue to do. I'd like to add 10lbs from the cycle. More would be great but im trying to aim low and just see what happends. As for the 500 mgs, it was just the amount I came up with when i originally did my research. 500g of test seemed to be the most commonly used and recomended first cycle. I used for 2-3 weeks before, but the gear had a problem and the soreness was unbareable, so I just threw it out. I dont know if i can list the source but they are on this site and the rep told me there was a problem with the gear and its been fixed. I dont have a problem using less, its just what seemed to be recomended most. I had never found this forum before so you guys may recomend something different. I dont pretend to know anything about this, just what ive researched my self.

I do have a question though. Should i take nolva and clomid or just clomid? I'd like to have it all together before i start my cycle. I really appreciate all the help.

 

[mickdoo]

Gear is a tool, just like weight,nutrition etc. If used correctly it can aid in performance, growth, yada yada. Get the picture. Now everyone responds to gear differently. Some, the lucky have great success and put on huge amounts of lean mass with minimal doses. There bodies just take to it. Others even though the hit the gear heavy still like slop hounds. All fat and bloated. You need to find out where you fit in through experimentation. As far as the nolva goes and clomid. I would have them both available. You can take both through the cycle. The clomid will keep your testicles functioning while using the test. So now you will have the synthetic test in you via injection and then your natural test from your balls too. This is one option. This is what I like because I like big balls. If you don't mind your balls shrinking up. Which they will then just use the clomid after cycle. As far as amounts being posted on this board. Some of these guys really know what they are talking about, some don't. Personally I always go to use the lowest amount for the therapeutic value. Get it . I will say it again. The lowest amount for the most the therapeutic value that can be obtained. Anything more and the risk for side effects goes way up. In the end conservatism rules on this. Good luck enjoy your first cycle. Avoid all alcohol and other toxic drugs too.

 

[CokeRocks]

Again I really appreciate you guys takiing the time to help me out. What amounts of clomid would you recomend?

 

[mickdoo]

This is what I take, my endo provided with them and I follow his instructions on the clomid. I take 25 mg for 25 days then 5 off then repeat. You can start out with this also. Key here is take a feel of your balls every now and then. I like my balls full not a shriveled up nut sack. If there full they are working. If they shrivel up, they have become dormant for Lh hormone is not providing the signal for them to respond because there is not more Lh hormone to signal. This is where the clomid comes in. I know the 25 mg works for a fact for I had a blood test done and my T levels were way to high for amount of T I was taking.

 

[The Dude]

My first cycle was 200mg of test a week. 10 weeks I gained 20lbs kept 18. Nutrition and training are key. 500mg on your first is WAY too high IMO. I plan to cruise at 200mg a week and I'm 5'9 257lbs and decently tight. My pics are up here somewhere. I have been using for 11 years too.

 

[CokeRocks]

I certainly dont have a problem using less if that is what is thought to be best. Im certainly not one of those guys that thinks i have to go huge the first time with things. 500mg is just what was recommended when i was originally going to start a while back. i should have everything here by the end of the week and should be able to start somewhere in there.