First Cycle, Tren 300mg, Winny 100mg /week

[KrossEyed]

First Cycle, Fina 300mg, Winny 200mg /week

My first Cycle.

I am 37 years old. I am running

Fina: 300mg/week (4 injections per week)
Winny: 200mg/week (oral)


Friends tell me I should put sust250 or some kind of test in there as well. One of my friends swears by the Deca/sust250 stack. What do you guys think?

My goal here is to bulk.


- Kross

 

[jtunderdog]

You need some test for sure, and I wouldn't run the winnie until the end. I don't know how long you are gonna run this for but you definitely don't want to run winnie for your whole cycle. I would run it the last 4 weeks and run test throughout the whole cycle.

 

[KrossEyed]

I knew it!.... I'm pretty sure I've read on here that running doing a cycle without test is a BAD idea.

Does anyone else agree I should add test to this cycle? Or is it fine without? Any exact reasons for this? Thanks

- Kross

 

[saudades]

Yes, you should have a test base in there, at least 300-400mg/week.

 

[little big guy]

Always have a test base.....

 

[Get_Swole]

your first cycle ever? Wow i would cut the tren out then.

 

[KrossEyed]

I have heard from friends that tren was the best thing they have ever taken for strength.

Also, I agree with taking the test, but I'm having alot of trouble finding clomid, will it be ok to not take anything post cycle after taking the test?... which I think I need from what I've read.

 

[Get_Swole]

no it wont be ok you need some sort of pct. Tren may be the best thing for strength but it also has the most harsh and sometimes uncontollable sides. Progesterone gyno you will need anti p for, harsh on liver and kidney's. Night sweats and some have severe insomnia on. The list goes on. Its just not a smart move for your first cycle but do what you wish.

 

[KrossEyed]

If I can find some sust250 I'll order it tonight and replace the tren (fina) with the test. I've read all day and just about everyone agrees that test should be a part of every cycle. This board has been great so far, thanks for your help..

- Kross

 

[jtunderdog]

Tren scares the crap out of me. Not sure why, but I don't plan on taking it anytime soon. Thats just my opinion. If I were you I would run test alone or test with some deca. Just my 2 cents.

 

[saudades]

Erp, I didn't see that this was your first cycle. Tren is not for beginners. Listen to these guys. Your friend is correct that a test(prop,sust,cyp,whatever kind of test)/deca stack is very good. You will need PCT whatever you do, but if you do sust/deca, that should be sufficient for you as a beginning cycle.

 

[h8tr3d]

if you decide to run tren or deca, have some cabaser on hand for progesterone induced gyno, cause it hits quick if your prone to it