First cycle

[ajwestie87]

I was going to wait to do my first cycle till after the new year but I just found out that I got a $5000 bonus coming from work and now have the rounds to do what I wanted. So here we go.


Week 1-12 500 Mgs a week test e ( split into 2 shots a week)
Week 14-17 20 Mgs novladex Everyday

As of right now I am coming in at 185 at 6'1 and my diet I feel is right on. Although I do plan on cleaning it up a bit once I start. I have not been counting calories, fat, protein, or carbs intake at all. Just trying to eat something clean every 2-3 hours. Any Input you guys have that would help me out here I would appreciate.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

500 isn't too high, but you can grow off less, especially if it's your first time. You could probably do pretty well with half that if your diet is good. Just my humble opinion.

 

[ajwestie87]

500 isn't too high, but you can grow off less, especially if it's your first time. You could probably do pretty well with half that if your diet is good. Just my humble opinion.

You think maybe I should cut it down to 400 Mgs a week? And should I be running anything else with this cycle?

 

[big in vegas]

Go at 250mg and go for 16 weeks. You'll grow fine from that dose for your first cycle

 

[ajwestie87]

Go at 250mg and go for 16 weeks. You'll grow fine from that dose for your first cycle

250 a week? You think that would be enough? Maybe a stupid ? But I really don't know the answer.

 

[big in vegas]

Yea, it'd be plenty for your first cycle

 

[XXXX]

500 isn't too high, but you can grow off less, especially if it's your first time. You could probably do pretty well with half that if your diet is good. Just my humble opinion.

I completely agree with this its overkill and the extra could go to your second one if so chose to. Just my opinion as well.

 

[ajwestie87]

alright so at 250 mgs. should i stay at 12 weeks or run it 16? and if i go 16 weeks do i wait another 2 weeks after to start pct?

 

[Pharm_Fed]

alright so at 250 mgs. should i stay at 12 weeks or run it 16? and if i go 16 weeks do i wait another 2 weeks after to start pct?

Yes, wait the same amount of time to start PCT. Also, just for reference, my first cycle was ~275mg/wk of test and I gained 24 lbs in about 10 weeks. I think I have a thread about it somewhere on here. Always use the least effective dosage.

 

[ajwestie87]

Ok I will run 250 Mgs a week split into 2 shots. So 125 each time. So do I need to go 10 weeks or 16?

 

[dorian123]

see how your body reacts, if your still growing at week 10 then keep going

if the gains have slowed then take the time off to clean out your receptors and start PCT

 

[ajwestie87]

Is the novladex going to be enough for pct? If not what should I add?

 

[dorian123]

well you might want to think about using MC IGF

my typical PCT before I started bridging was IGF, clomid and creatine

through trial and error I found clomid to work better for me than nolva, the creatine worked ok PCT but some people really didn't care for it due to the bloat and water retention...most people will wait till they are completely off everything (cycle and PCT) then hit the creatine

since I started bridging I use the creatine at the start of a cycle, IGF in the middle and end, and don't bother with the clomid

most people do like the nolva better than the clomid though

clomid can have some real stupid side effects like bad depression-I never had that problem...

 

[ajwestie87]

I think I will go with the novla. Is 20 Mgs a day good? And also will this take care of bitch tits or is something else I should get to cover this? And sorry for all ?s that I am sure you have answered a thousand times. Just want to make sure I have everything in order before I start.

 

[dorian123]

well as soon as you start noticing itchy or painful nips start taking the nolva...doesn't matter if it's during or after your cycle

once you get bitch tits your kinda stuck with them for life unless you get plastic surgery...I've heard of people saying that they will subside a little over time but why take the chance-stop them before they start

yeah the nolva will shut down a few receptors but in the long run it's better than getting bitch tits...this depends on person to person as to whether your body is prone to get them or not

I've heard a very crude way of getting a guess-timate of this is by looking at your mother and sisters and how uhh, "top heavy" they are...

 

[dorian123]

BTW there is no evidence to back this up, as in all the males in my family are bald except me and most of them on my mother's side are also

BUT by far I have them all beat in the back hair dept-guess that's the one talent that I have in lifeuke:

 

[ajwestie87]

Well if thats true the women in my family are small up top so maybe theres nothing to worry about. Lol

 

[XXXX]

lol nice so no man boobs for you..to bad it looks good when your shoppingf with your girl, get matching bras..lol jk. I have a friend who had surgery to remove the gyno and it sucked knocked him out of the gym for months and he said his insurance only covered a small portion of it. Complains of funky nipples now..lol

 

[ajwestie87]

lol nice so no man boobs for you..to bad it looks good when your shoppingf with your girl, get matching bras..lol jk. I have a friend who had surgery to remove the gyno and it sucked knocked him out of the gym for months and he said his insurance only covered a small portion of it. Complains of funky nipples now..lol

Most deffentlay don't want that happen!!

 

[recon]

Less is more if it's your first!If 200-250 /wk will put it on, then the rest is for not! I only use Nolva if I see signs of sides, otherwise i'll run 50mg clomid per day two weeks after my last pin. Hell, anymore, i'm on always either 400/wk cyp or 200/wk cyp.....so who's counting!