Going to start a big bulk...

[big in vegas]

I'm planning a cycle out for the first of the year. The next 18 months will be a bulk really so I'm looking for a cycle that I can run for an extended period of time, maybe 16 weeks or so, 20 tops probably. Has anyone ran a bulking cycle this long and had good results at the end? If so, what did you run?

 

[Presser]

ofcourse brutha! longer then that, way longer,lol, and all you need is a good test base like prop at about 2-300mg eod for a good big bulk with about 100mg eod tren ace, and im not big on orals but if i was to use them I would only do so as a jump start for a week or so with maybe drol at 50mg eod

Personaly i dont think the secret to gaining some serious head turning mass is alot of stacking all kinds of high dose bullshit, but rather if i asked i would say the secret is to stay on your basics longer, much much longer

and I know you already know what ur talking about and ur just looking to hear other peoples idea, so thats mine,lol

 

[Crazymank]

I dont do short cycles, but beyond 16 weeks... I usually reach a plateau. Sometimes i up the gear, sometimes i decide to go off. Depends on life and finances.

 

[Chris250]

I stay on most of the time, but I do a blast and cruise type of thing....I will blast hard for 8-12 weeks then cruise for 4-8 weeks ...so an example would be

Blast cycle (8-12 week long)

Test (any long acting kind, sust, enth, cyp, ect)- 800-1600mg per week
anabolic like deca or eq (I like deca better than eq)- 400-800mg per week
oral like d bol or anadrol 50mg to 100mg per day (run this at the beginning of the cycle for the first 4-6 wks)
GH and insulin will add alot to the stack if money is good...4-8 iu's HGH, insulin doses depend on long or short acting
arimadex at .5 EOD or 2-3 x a week

cruise cycle (4-8 weeks long)

Just test (long or short acting) 200-400mg per week
arimadex at .5 mg EOD or 2-3 x week

 

[The Dude]

It's going to depend on your level of development, but I can gain very well on 600 of Test and 600 of Deca a week. When I get bored of it, like I am now, I switch. I'm going to do a primarily anabolic cycle. It's good to change things up. My new one is 800 of Deca, 200 of Test a week with 75 EOD of Tren. I'll throw in some orals here and there. Giving that Boladrol a try now.

 

[big in vegas]

ofcourse brutha! longer then that, way longer,lol, and all you need is a good test base like prop at about 2-300mg eod for a good big bulk with about 100mg eod tren ace, and im not big on orals but if i was to use them I would only do so as a jump start for a week or so with maybe drol at 50mg eod

Personaly i dont think the secret to gaining some serious head turning mass is alot of stacking all kinds of high dose bullshit, but rather if i asked i would say the secret is to stay on your basics longer, much much longer

and I know you already know what ur talking about and ur just looking to hear other peoples idea, so thats mine,lol

Yea bro, I've just never stayed on for more than 16 weeks. I mean, like Chris said, I've been on then dropped down to like 250mg-400mg a week of Test E to maintain and coast, but never stayed on for an extended period of time. If I recall correctly, 12 weeks is the longest I've stayed on an actual cycle. I'm just finally bound and determined to hit 200 so I can set a new goal. I've been 180 for too long, but the good thing is, I've maintained this naturally for so long that I know I won't drop back down so now if I make it to 200 and maintain it for a while, I can look at 210, 220, and so on.

 

[big in vegas]

Not to mention, now I've got some MC IGF-1 in my arsenal so I know adding lean mass will be a little easier now. I'm itching like crazy to use this shit, I've only read great things so I'm extremely excited to give it a go. I can't wait to get big like the bossman!!!

 

[Chris250]

Well IMO, if you got the coin...HGH and insulin with anything will be your best bet...

test, deca, hgh, and slin ... cant beat that for an offseason bulk

 

[big in vegas]

I've gotta do some research on HGH and slin, never really looked into it to be honest. I've always wanted to, but just have never done the research so I haven't done it. I've used IGF-1 and loved it so I can only imagine what slin and HGH will do

 

[The Dude]

At 180 depending on your height, I really don't think you need GH or insulin. If you want to put on supraphysiological amounts of muscle and keep it, you have to maintain supraphysiological hormone levels as well as an increased caloric intake. It's pretty simple and you don't need big doses just time. IGF is another story in my opinion. That stuff is the shit!

 

[big in vegas]

At 180 depending on your height, I really don't think you need GH or insulin. If you want to put on supraphysiological amounts of muscle and keep it, you have to maintain supraphysiological hormone levels as well as an increased caloric intake. It's pretty simple and you don't need big doses just time. IGF is another story in my opinion. That stuff is the shit!

You're in the same frame of mind I'm in, that's why I've never really looked into HGH yet. I know I still have a lot to add on at this point. I have a small frame and don't know that I could reasonably hold 220, but 200 would be nice. The caloric intake could be upped and I could probably make 185 on diet alone, but to make 200 a decent cycle would be needed. I'm not one to pound loads of shit, but something under 750mg of test and a decent stack always works for me. I've taken a gram of test a week before and it didn't seem to make much of a difference from 750mg for me so I won't do it again unless I feel like I've reached the point where it's needed, but I just can't fathom that right now.

 

[The Dude]

You're in the same frame of mind I'm in, that's why I've never really looked into HGH yet. I know I still have a lot to add on at this point. I have a small frame and don't know that I could reasonably hold 220, but 200 would be nice. The caloric intake could be upped and I could probably make 185 on diet alone, but to make 200 a decent cycle would be needed. I'm not one to pound loads of shit, but something under 750mg of test and a decent stack always works for me. I've taken a gram of test a week before and it didn't seem to make much of a difference from 750mg for me so I won't do it again unless I feel like I've reached the point where it's needed, but I just can't fathom that right now.

Bro you would be surprised as to how big you can get when you go all in with diet, sleep, training, and intelligent AAS use. I was stuck at 218 for years and I have pretty good genetics. 2 1/2 years later I'm at a tight 270lbs and trying to bring up bodyparts without getting bigger!