Good Fruits?Bad Fruits?

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Now that your diet is in check you may want to start looking back at the ephedrine again. I only use it to surpress carb hungar. Using it is a fine line because of its sides (fatigue, ect.). I'll only pop about 3-4 per week and of the morning. I can eat 10 at a time but it will not help accomplish a long-term goal.

Funny thing is after about a month on a lean diet your energy level will go back up and restore itself better then a bulking diet. I go to the grocery store now and watch people checking out. Damn its no wonder they look like shit. Obesity here is very popular, so are chips and pop.

Keep up the good work and you'll be stoked in about 10 more weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I am going to have to disagree with alot of what you guys have said here. I recently bought "The Abs Diet" book. I tried cutting b4 and lost a shitload of muscle. I was in shock of how skinny I got and how I looked like shit. Once I started reading this book it tought me alot about fruits, peanuts, carbs and lean meats. Now I have kept more muscle and lost more fat then before. In this book it sais you should have about 2 handfull of nuts (unsalted, unsugared). Dark green vegies and even putting berrys and oatmeal and fat free yourgurt in all your shakes. I have been doing this. Even though progress has been slow. I am noticing my sixpacks starting to show and I am keeping alot of my muscle. Even when I was naturally skinny I never had a six pack. If you are on a certain diet and you are getting the results you want. Why change it? Remember though cutting IMO will be the most difficult thing you will ever do. Results are slow but well worth it when you do things right. Another thing the I am wondering is, the diet that you guys are talking about. Is that for competing or just to cut in general? Because If you just want to be cut to look good with your shirt off and not compete I feel you can be a bit more flexable with your diet and still get the results desired.
 
Whats everyone think about ground turkey???

I like to mix that up with my chicken breast to cut down on cost. Throw in some green veggies... maybe a little rice... MMmmmm yummy.

I cant go without rice..... No carbs works for about a month with me... If I cut my rice Ill end up with 2 empty pizza boxes on my kitchen table.
 
Elmo, everything you said is correct. Its a great program for slowly loosing fat while gaining muscle. I don't know anything about BB competition and am only commenting on cutting fast. Muscle loss in our situation won't be a problem due to taking in lots of protein and doing a cycle. After the luv handles and cycle is gone I would highly reccomend a diet like the one you posted.

Normal, I hear ya. Turkey breast is the best part of the bird for leaning. And yes its a really good choice. I understand its almost impossible to cut all carbs, and I'd love a freakin Pizza right now.
 
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I like to mix that ground turkey/ chicken/ veggies/ rice up and make enough to eat for a week. Im less likely to stray from my diet if I have something right there right now in the fridge......

I also like to throw ground turkey in my omlets in the morning... I use egg beaters w/ the same veggies... awesome.
 
Normal some turkey burgers, bacon ect. doesn't taste bad. You have to just keep buying them till you find one exeptable. Turkey bacon may really help that Omlets taste.
 
BACON!!!.... I was thinking of adding that to my omlets... hee hee.... But not the turkey bacon...

Loosing weight sucks....

Id almost rather not have sex then diet.
 
Im definitely in NO shape to compete, Im just trying to add lean mass and cut down body fat with the help of winny. At first I thought I was going to "cut", then I realized you have to have lots of good solid muscle to cut, in which I still dont. Some areas are good, some blow, my chest blows, my arms and lower legs are ok. Back is wide but has lots of fat! I could really care less about size as long as it is legit muscle. 16" hard looks better that 18" soft any day in my opinion. I just want to thank you again optimum, today I hammered the diet perfectly, I didnt jinx myself by getting on the scale but I feel great about my diet now and even wore all sweats in the gym this am. Also Ive been hitting the ECA in the moring, just once a day, I dont take it on the weekends though.
 
Read the ingredients first!!! Make sure it is ground "Turkey Breast" and if it has the words..."partially hydrogenated..." don't even bother! LOL

TheElmo...if your current diet works for you then by all means stick too it...

Personally I ONLY cut carbs completely when I am dieting down for a show...I continue to eat complex carbs such as brown rice, oatmeal, sweet pots, etc...but I NEVER eat fruit except for RR Grapefruit....Is natural sugar in fruit is better than simple sugars? yeah..but sugar is still sugar

TheElmo...I totally get where you are coming from...I agree that you must have a combination of fat, COMPLEX carbs, and protein in order to achieve the "Lean" look. But...if you use fruits as part of your carb intake the results will be much slower than that of a person who strictly uses complex carbs. REMEMBER David Zinczenko is out to sell his book "The Abs Diet "....if he said "Cut out all fruit" how many people do you think would really buy his book? So...he has to play it safe and not be too restrictive...I don't blame him...look at the millions he is making off of the book! :laugh:

....this is a good read...it will help you Southern, because you do need to eat some complex carbs throughout your day, or your body will begin breaking down muscle for energy...which totally defeats what you are trying to do. If you monitor your carb intake you will be fine

CARBOHYDRATES 101

Whether it is the cereal you had for breakfast or the roll you ate at dinner, all carbohydrates are organic compounds containing carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. Carbohydrates are formed directly or indirectly from green plants through a process called "photosynthesis," which you probably learned about in grade school. In this process, the sun's energy is captured by chlorophyll, the green coloring in leaves, to turn water from the soil and carbon dioxide from the air into an energy-yielding sugar called glucose. Plants require glucose for growth and repair, and any extra, unneeded glucose is converted to starch and stored in the plant.

Carbohydrates are amazingly diverse, present in foods not only as sugars and starch, but also as fiber. Sugars are sometimes called "simple" sugars, a term that describes their chemical structure. Simple sugars, for example, are constructed of either single (monosaccharide) or double (disaccharide) molecules of sugar. The three major single sugars are glucose, fructose, and galactose. Glucose and fructose are found mostly in fruits and vegetables, and galactose is a component of milk and other dairy products.

When two single sugars link up chemically, a double sugar is formed. The most common double sugar is sucrose, better known as table sugar. Sucrose is composed of glucose and fructose and is one of the sweetest of all sugars. Found in sugar cane and sugar beets, sucrose is purified and refined to provide the various sugar products you see on grocery store shelves: table sugar, candy, cakes, cookies, and other sweets.

A pairing of galactose and glucose yields the milk sugar lactose, found in dairy foods. Another double sugar is maltose, which is constructed from two units of glucose. Maltose is found in plants during the early stages of germination. Sugars, regardless of their molecular makeup, are very easily and quickly digested in the body.

Starches are created when three or more glucose molecules hook up. Most plant foods, including cereals, whole grains, pasta, fruits, and vegetables, are starches, also known as complex carbohydrates. Starches take longer to digest than sugars do.

Found in starches and in less-starchy vegetables like lettuce, fiber is the indigestible remnant of plant food. Although it contributes little energy to your diet, fiber provides bulk, which is vital for intestinal action. Fiber has an array of health benefits: It improves elimination, flushes cancer-causing substances from the system, and helps normalize cholesterol levels. A diet high in fiber will help you control your weight, too -- in several ways. Fiber makes you feel full so you don't overeat. More energy (calories) is spent digesting and absorbing high-fiber foods. In fact, if you increase your fiber intake to 35 grams a day, you'll automatically burn 250 calories a day, without exercising more or eating less. And fiber helps move food through your system more efficiently. This means fewer calories are left to be stored as fat.

Making up roughly half the calories consumed in the average American diet, carbohydrates are to your body what gas is to your car -- the fuel that gets you going. During digestion, all sugars and starches are broken down into glucose (blood sugar) for energy. Assisted by a hormone called insulin, blood glucose is then ushered into cells to be used by various tissues in the body. Carbohydrates, therefore, nourish your body's tissues, providing energy for your brain, central nervous system, and muscle cells in the form of glucose.

Several things can then happen to glucose in your body. Once inside a cell, it can be quickly metabolized to supply energy. Or it might be converted to either liver or muscle glycogen, the storage form of carbohydrate. When you exercise or use your muscles, your body mobilizes muscle glycogen for energy. Blood glucose can also turn into body fat and get packed away in fat tissue. This happens when you eat more carbohydrates than you need or than your body can store as glycogen. Some blood glucose might also be excreted in your urine.

Above all other nutrients, your body prefers to run on glucose from carbohydrates, even though two other nutrients, fat and protein, can provide energy, too. Fat is considered a food fuel, but it is more of an understudy or backup source. Only if carbohydrate stores dwindle will your body tap in to fat for fuel.

Protein is not a good source of energy for your body and is, in fact, underemployed when called upon as an energy provider. Its most important job in your body is to build and repair tissue. Using protein as an energy source is like hiring a computer specialist, then relegating him to the mailroom. Protein simply has more important jobs to do in the body than supply energy.

If you don't eat enough carbohydrates or fat, however, protein will be used as an energy source, because energy production takes metabolic priority over tissue-building. But the problem is that food protein and body protein (muscle and other tissue) will be sacrificed to supply energy, causing parts of your body to waste away. So you see, carbs hold fort as your body's best supply of energy.
 
After triceps workout and 30mins of killer ass cardio with my heart rate between 145-153 and hit up 10 mins of good quality ab time when I got in the locker room my upper abs were peaking through, I was AMPED! Firts time in my entire life I have seen my abs. Now two protein shakes, 5 boiled eggs in a spinach salad later they are no where to be found, funny how that works, either way I know they are there. BTW, Ive been lifting everyday in full sweat gear, sweat pants and a hooded pull over. It helps my work out too, for 1.) you dont see how pumped you are getting, so you have to go BALLS TO THE WALL 2.) your body is warmer, warm muscles perform better 3.) I feel like its my battle armor (enough said) 4.) People cant point and stare at veins sticking out of my shoulders anymore. Everyone wins.
Thanks to all that has helped, means a lot!
 
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