Good read about tendons

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Chris250

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Good read about tendons.

While injecting test increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen synthesis while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

Deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS, the decision is up to you.​
 
what is Oxandrolone exactly? is it a branch of anadrol.
I read this article after my tendon tear but forgot about alot of the importance of this info
 
if you take EQ by itself does it do what deca does if taken by itself as far as libido and shit like that?
 
if you take EQ by itself does it do what deca does if taken by itself as far as libido and shit like that?
No, its not as bad as deca is by itself. EQ is really hit or miss though from user to user. It's also pretty mild as far as sides go
 
No, its not as bad as deca is by itself. EQ is really hit or miss though from user to user. It's also pretty mild as far as sides go

Cool I wanna add it to test or sus so my tendons stay strong
 
it would just b 10ml of it
you'll be fine bro. Actually you might want to wait untill you have more, because EQ takes a while to build up (5+wks), and usually needs to be run at least 600mg/wk. For tendons..... im not so sure how good it is. I was using 750mg EW with the same of sust, and I still got tendonitis bad. That was ovr 2 years ago, and I still have it. I even had an mri done. So yeah, im not too sure, but this is only my experience with it. I still use it, and like it, just not too sure how good it is for collagen synthesis
 
200mgs/ml for 10 weeks?
Tendon health is super important to me too..Ive ruptured both my pecs over the years..never want to go thru that again...
I havent geared in 10 years but when I do Im gonna add low dose GH throughout just for the tendon and ligament health..of course the added benefits are nice too.:D
 
I'm taking 800mg EW and feel great from it. EQ will not have the negative sides Deca has, it's got more of a test profile. EQ was created as an attempt to produce an injectable version of Dbol. Because of that simple modification is only going to convert to estrogen (aromatize) at about half the rate of Testosterone. Although it rates as highly as test in terms of anabolic effects, but it’s only half as androgenic. However, in the real world, not too many users report the kind of weight gain on Eq as they do with test, although strength gains seem to be very similar. This is probably why Eq has a well deserved reputation as a hardening agent, and a good cutting drug, but not really as a bulking drug. When it’s used in a bulking cycle, it’s primarily used to aid in appetite stimulation, which is a property of this drug that has been experienced by many athletes- myself included
 
I just dont want another tear, will dbol help with this too?? That would be more affordable, I in the past took dbol by itself and had horrible results but id be doin it along side sus or test
 
I'm taking 800mg EW and feel great from it. EQ will not have the negative sides Deca has, it's got more of a test profile. EQ was created as an attempt to produce an injectable version of Dbol. Because of that simple modification is only going to convert to estrogen (aromatize) at about half the rate of Testosterone. Although it rates as highly as test in terms of anabolic effects, but it’s only half as androgenic. However, in the real world, not too many users report the kind of weight gain on Eq as they do with test, although strength gains seem to be very similar. This is probably why Eq has a well deserved reputation as a hardening agent, and a good cutting drug, but not really as a bulking drug. When it’s used in a bulking cycle, it’s primarily used to aid in appetite stimulation, which is a property of this drug that has been experienced by many athletes- myself included

Have you ever had blood work drawn while ON 800mg EQ? Watch the hemocrit/RBC bro...you may "feel" great but you may not know whats going on inside. High hemocrit/RBC linked to increased risks of blood clots...blood gets thick...harder to pump etc....its a marathon not a sprint, stay healthy.
 
Have you ever had blood work drawn while ON 800mg EQ? Watch the hemocrit/RBC bro...you may "feel" great but you may not know whats going on inside. High hemocrit/RBC linked to increased risks of blood clots...blood gets thick...harder to pump etc....its a marathon not a sprint, stay healthy.
sounds like a stroke waiting to happen aye?
 
anyone know the effect that tren has on tendons and such?
all the info I've found on the net seems to give mixed reviews???
 
sounds like a stroke waiting to happen aye?
Yes sir..or a slew of other cardiac problems...Not sure on the dbol...If I find anything I'll let you know..like I said this is something Im really into with my past experience and all...I know winny is horrible for the tendons, I would think tren would be too due to its "drying" nature...
GH is your best, safest bet though for sure...low dose, 2-3ius 5 days a week and you should reap all the tendon health bennies.
 
Yes sir..or a slew of other cardiac problems...Not sure on the dbol...If I find anything I'll let you know..like I said this is something Im really into with my past experience and all...I know winny is horrible for the tendons, I would think tren would be too due to its "drying" nature...
GH is your best, safest bet though for sure...low dose, 2-3ius 5 days a week and you should reap all the tendon health bennies.
agreed w GH but big money... and winny is def the cause of my tendon tear so f that stuff for good for me. Tren was supposedly Lou's main thing back in the day so who knows
 
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