How long can i go????

[MANTUS]

I'm used to 8 week cycles,but i want to extend this one to 12 weeks.I will be using IGF,PS,and Nolva to recover.Is this a good idea,or should i just save my gear for my next cycle? If i save it and stop this at 8 weeks,i will start my next the end of Nov,but,if i extend this one,i won't start the next until Dec or Jan.I'm in week 5 of 8 and i'm up 13lbs.I haven't been very strict with my Protein intake or workout(i know very stupid)but it's alot better now,which is why i want to extend.I think i can get alot more weight.I'm gonna buy my gear for my next cycle,anyway,so maybe i'll just see what happens in the next 3 weeks.OK my other problem is sex drive.What can i use between cycles that will keep up my sex drive.I'm 33yr old now,and naturally my sex drive is not what it used to be.I like how it is on this stuff.Tribestan? I want something that really works.Thanks

 

[dedprez*]

run 10-12 weeks and then mayb bridge with some enanthate in between to keep the drive going and the gains solid...u will be amazed at what 200mgs will do for ya...but get yo nuts back while your bridging

 

[MANTUS]

bridge with test?

I was always under the impression that even such a low dose will suppress natural test.I was looking for something more for increasing natural test,and not using AAS to bridge.

 

[Badgermoon]

I don't know for sure as I haven't used it yet, but I have read that proviron will help with libido. The best bet might be to get your natural levels back as soon as possible, depending on how high they are without gear.

 

[MANTUS]

I am going to get my Test levels back hopefully very fast with all my ancillaries,but what im saying is i don't want to use AAS between cycles.If i'm going to use between cycles,i see no reason for coming off.Im gonna extend the Test to 12 weeks at the same dose,and hit the IGF once at the beginning of the 9th week for 3 weeks.I just wanna test the IGF when i get it(should be this week),so im gonna shoot 40mcg before bed just to see how it makes me feel.

 

[MANTUS]

I don't bridge with AAS,because it just doesn't make sense to me.I like giving my body a break from the gear between cycles.Maybe my thought on that will change in the future,but that's how i feel now.After i get to my natural limits or close to them,then i may need to bridge with AAS but not yet

 

[dedprez*]

try AD-1 or 1-AD or whatever it is

 

[BLEED GREEN]

HCG 5000iu e/3rd day for 4 total injections.

 

[goldenear]

Try Avena Sativa, Maca, etc. Lot's of herby stuff available that might work for you. If you're using longer acting meds, then you have to take that into account when you come off. I always give ~3 weeks for enanthate/cypionate products and 5-6 weeks for decanoate products. So even if you extend your injection schedule to 12 weeks, you're really doing at 15-week cycle (assuming you're using test enanthate), even though nobody really keeps track like that with longer-acting stuff.

If you're not running hcg now, I would start immediately. Atrophied testicles will delay HPTA restoration.

 

[BLEED GREEN]

Great advice on the herbals

 

[MANTUS]

Try Avena Sativa, Maca, etc. Lot's of herby stuff available that might work for you. If you're using longer acting meds, then you have to take that into account when you come off. I always give ~3 weeks for enanthate/cypionate products and 5-6 weeks for decanoate products. So even if you extend your injection schedule to 12 weeks, you're really doing at 15-week cycle (assuming you're using test enanthate), even though nobody really keeps track like that with longer-acting stuff.

If you're not running hcg now, I would start immediately. Atrophied testicles will delay HPTA restoration.

thanks but i don't use HCG.I know about the halflives but i start my Anti-Es early for recovery.I'm stopping the cycle in 2 1/2 more weeks.I just started the IGF today and i'm going to continue for 3 weeks.I'm even going to start the PS very soon(maybe tonight).I'm up to 189 now.In 2 1/2 weeks i should have no problem making it to 195.I'm going to take 8 weeks off and then start another 8 weeks of Enanthate at 2g/week.I'm thinking of throwing in some Fina and getting another bottle of IGF,if i like it.

 

[SNDMN]

Dedprez: You suggested that MANTIS "bridge" with 200 mg of test every week or every two weeks but wouldn't that still suppress his normal test levels and HPTA?

 

[BLEED GREEN]

Dedprez: You suggested that MANTIS "bridge" with 200 mg of test every week or every two weeks but wouldn't that still suppress his normal test levels and HPTA?

Yes it will.

 

[SNDMN]

That's what I was thinking.

 

[MANTUS]

that's why i wouldn't do it